Your take on Sharia law in America

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Pro and anti Islamic sentiments aside, I want to get to the meat of the issue.

Do you believe Muslims should be able to enforce Sharia laws in their own communities as opposed to Constitutional law?

This goes on in other parts of the world, including Europe.

I am against that. I think the government should protect individual rights even if their collective neighbors disagree.

Rising star and Ron Paul supporter, MO Rep. Paul Curtman, who introduced the Missouri Sound Money Act also introduced the anti-Sharia Civil Liberties Defense Act .

 

[LibertyEagle]

NO.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If it's a voluntary community, sure.

No different than the Amish or Hasidic Jews, the way I look at it.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

If it's a voluntary community, sure.

No different than the Amish or Hasidic Jews, the way I look at it.

Would that apply to minors as well?

I can't say no to anything voluntary of course. I have read in England where the police are actually not allowed in these communities, and their local enforcement basically does whatever they want. My concern would be people getting trapped.

 

[Confederate]

If it's a voluntary community, sure.

No different than the Amish or Hasidic Jews, the way I look at it.

This.

Anyone who actually thinks that Islamic law is being codified into law and that Americans will be subject to it is either ignorant or willfully spreading misinformation.

SHARIA LAW POSES NO THREAT TO ANYONE IN THE US.

 

[Ender]

If it's a voluntary community, sure.

No different than the Amish or Hasidic Jews, the way I look at it.

My POV, as well.

 

[LibertyEagle]

This.

Anyone who actually thinks that Islamic law is being codified into law and that Americans will be subject to it is either ignorant or willfully spreading misinformation.

SHARIA LAW POSES NO THREAT TO ANYONE IN THE US.

Interesting. Aren't we talking about AMERICAN Islamics in this example? Because I thought we were.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Interesting. Aren't we talking about AMERICAN Islamics in this example? Because I thought we were.

Yeah, Muslims can be Americans.

Dr. Taj for example.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Yeah, Muslims can be Americans.

Dr. Taj for example.

Of course they can be. Which makes the following untrue:

This.

Anyone who actually thinks that Islamic law is being codified into law and that Americans will be subject to it is either ignorant or willfully spreading misinformation.

SHARIA LAW POSES NO THREAT TO ANYONE IN THE US.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Would that apply to minors as well?

I can't say no to anything voluntary of course. I have read in England where the police are actually not allowed in these communities, and their local enforcement basically does whatever they want. My concern would be people getting trapped.

Well, now, you've stepped right on the ice.

Sure it would include children as well, to say otherwise would mean that the state could come in and snatch up people's kids whenever they felt that the parents were "strange". (Which they do, all too frequently.)

Short of demonstrable, clear, harm, yes, that would include kids.

Sharia law is no different than Kosher food laws or LDS codes.

None of which are codified into actual force of law.

They are voluntarily complied with by followers of that particular sect.

 

[idiom]

Christians are theoretically supposed to sort things out between themselves without ever going to court.

That is a new testament thing.

They should be able to rule themselves.

1 Corinthians 6
New King James Version (NKJV)
Do Not Sue the Brethren

6 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? 2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? 4 If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? 5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!

7 Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren!

Its one of the more minarchist ideals in the new testament.

Now for Sharia, if the submission to rulings is voluntary then I don't know how you could stop it. If anyone tried to enforce it, its never going to fly unless its the sheriff doing it.

I like that people are afraid of Sharia and Agenda 21 at the same time. This is amusing.

 

[Confederate]

Interesting. Aren't we talking about AMERICAN Islamics in this example? Because I thought we were.

Even American Muslims are subject to US law and always have been, always will be.

Whether they want to enter into private Sharia contracts is up to them, but that does not affect anyone else who does not voluntarily engage in them.

There's a lot of fearmongering (especially on the neocon sites) about Sharia law being imposed on Americans involuntarily, which is a load of bullshit.

 

[Anti Federalist]

People find Islam strange, coupled with the steady diet of propaganda fed to them by the government/media complex, it's no surprise that they then come to fear it.

I'm a Christian.

Let's put the shoe on the foot:

How would you view a religion that holds as one of its basic core rituals, the symbolic eating of human flesh and drinking of human blood?

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Even American Muslims are subject to US law and always have been, always will be.

Whether they want to enter into private Sharia contracts is up to them, but that does not affect anyone else who does not voluntarily engage in them.

There's a lot of fearmongering (especially on the neocon sites) about Sharia law being imposed on Americans involuntarily, which is a load of bullshit.

I don't really see it being imposed on whites, blacks, or Latinos but I do have a lot of concern for women and children.

I guess I need to find out exactly how it works in other countries, specifically Britain because it is probably the most similar to this country.

It really comes down to making sure this really is voluntary, because I can definitely see intimidation becoming prevalent.

 

[Confederate]

People find Islam strange, coupled with the steady diet of propaganda fed to them by the government/media complex, it's no surprise that they then come to fear it.

I'm a Christian.

Let's put the shoe on the foot:

How would you view a religion that holds as one of its basic core rituals, the symbolic eating of human flesh and drinking of human blood?

Catholics, Eastern and Oriental Orthodox, and even certain Anglicans believe that it is not symbolic, but the actual flesh and blood of Christ that they consume.

 

[FrankRep]

A glimpse into the future.


Islamic Sharia Law on the Rise in Great Britain as UK Seeks to Shut Down Muslim Courts


Christian News.net
November 17, 201

 

[Anti Federalist]

Catholics, Eastern and Oriental Orthodox, and even certain Anglicans believe that it is not symbolic, but the actual flesh and blood of Christ that they consume.

True that, but it is, in fact, wine.

Or if you grew up Baptist like I did, grape juice.

 

[Confederate]

A glimpse into the future.

Islamic Sharia Law on the Rise in Great Britain as UK Seeks to Shut Down Muslim Courts

Christian News.net
November 17, 201

Interesting how the completely fail to mention how those Sharia "courts" are completely private and voluntary.

 

[FrankRep]

True that, but it is, in fact, wine.

Or if you grew up Baptist like I did, grape juice.

If you drink enough Jesus, you'll get drunk. Well played Jesus, well played.

 

[FrankRep]

Interesting how the completely fail to mention how those Sharia "courts" are completely private and voluntary.

First paragraph: "UK parliament are seeking to ban self-established Muslim courts in the nation"