your ideal

[hypnagogue]

Sounds terrible Maji. Unlike Joe, I think you mean it.

 

[electronicmaji]

I take that as a compliment; anything a anarchist would hate can only be good.

 

[hypnagogue]

I take that as a compliment; anything a anarchist would hate can only be good.

Did you just call me an anarchist?

 

[Kludge]

I take that as a compliment; anything a anarchist would hate can only be good.

No ownership over yourself, your property or your labor?

That sucks...

 

[LittleLightShining]

I'm moving to the Republic of MCloud.

I like this as an option for our current prison system.

you will be jailed and will be put to work for private-corporations that bid on you for various menial jobs (cleaning out sewers, etc).

-all drugs will be allowed, but harming another individual while high or impaired will have very very VERY low tolerance for.

-once you hit the age of 21, you will undergo compulsory 4 weeks compulsory gun training that fits within your time schedule (probably one of my only coercive actions on the citizenry that isn't linked with committing a crime)--training will not be required if a citizen shows adequate knowledge in how to operate and fire several different weapons and can pass a written test.

I like this but I think the age could be lower. Maybe 16hrs of firearm training for 14-16yo within a 10mo period. Then a weekend camp for 16-18 year-olds on top of the training. From 18-21 you do 2 weeks and at 21 the 4 weeks. Most kids who come from a hunting family learn these skills at these young ages through hunter safety courses. These kids learn a respect for firearms and are generally not the same kids that are going to school to shoot down their peers and teachers.

I also like GML's castration punishment for sex crimes against kids but I don't know about the experimentation part.

I haven't thought enough about what my country would look like, but I'm pretty sure I would also be a benevolent dictator There would be a new holiday where people bake cookies and bring them to their neighbors.

I wouldn't interfere with people doing what they do on their property and with each other so long as there was no harm. Injury or damage to property would be dealt with swiftly in a humiliating and case-appropriate way so as to deter future miscreants.

I don't think people who work for the government should get any pay. It should be volunteer. Maybe compulsory service in lieu of taxes. Local communities would have to work out infrastructure issues on their own.

Also, like GML's country I would require every citizen to be armed and trained in the use of their firearm. This is national defense. If that's not good enough for you don't move here.

I wouldn't require people to work. There will be no welfare of any type. If you can manage as a vagrant and not cause anyone injury or property damage that's you're prerogative.

Insurance companies are not welcome in my country. Patients and doctors are free to negotiate services. I haven't thought this one through but I like to think of Doc Baker from Little House. That's medicine the way it should be.

 

[electronicmaji]

No ownership over yourself, your property or your labor?

That sucks...

I never said that; everyone has complete ownership over themselves, their personal property, and their labour. Nowhere in my ideal country does anything contradict that.

You anarchists are extremist; you want all or nothing. You refuse to realize or take any proof that civilized societies can not exist without things like taxes. Your beyond all hope.

 

[constituent]

I take that as a compliment; anything a anarchist would hate can only be good.

back again? don't make me post the pics.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

My real ideal would be a stateless society of voluntary social interaction. I like to play with statism once in a while, but my true ideal is true freedom. Do you support private organizations that you are not a member of to dictate your life? To legislate you? We never joined this country voluntarily, so why should we have to obey the laws? That's how I feel....sometimes

 

[amy31416]

I'm moving to the Republic of MCloud.

I like this but I think the age could be lower. Maybe 16hrs of firearm training for 14-16yo within a 10mo period. Then a weekend camp for 16-18 year-olds on top of the training. From 18-21 you do 2 weeks and at 21 the 4 weeks. Most kids who come from a hunting family learn these skills at these young ages through hunter safety courses. These kids learn a respect for firearms and are generally not the same kids that are going to school to shoot down their peers and teachers.

My only problem with making anything mandatory is that it doesn't take into account at all the wide variations in people. For instance, would you really want autistic, handicapped, down's syndrome, tourettes (the tic kind), or severely depressed kids being trained to use firearms? There has to be an out for those scenarios.

I also like GML's castration punishment for sex crimes against kids but I don't know about the experimentation part.

You spoil my fun! Killjoy!

 

[amy31416]

As far as socialist programs go, like welfare, health care, etc. I would have it written that the promotion and establishment of any programs of the sort must truly be "free." That is, all health care must be provided by an entirely voluntary medical staff in a facility that is donated by the people of the town/city. They can figure out the specifications locally.

Any politician who tries to tax for these services will be considered a thief of future generations, even if the current population agrees to it. It's fine if you as a soveriegn individual want to donate to whatever you want, but to attempt to legislate it for others and future generations will be punishable by law--not sure yet how to punish them though, because it can't be a burden on the population. Hard labor in camps perhaps.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Rule one: Don't touch other people's stuff.

Rule two: Keep your hands to yourself.

That is all.

 

[amy31416]

Rule one: Don't touch other people's stuff.

Rule two: Keep your hands to yourself.

That is all.

Amendment to Rule two: unless both parties agree to the laying on of hands, so to speak.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Amendment to Rule two: unless both parties agree to the laying on of hands, so to speak.

Stop. That's twice tonight you made me spill my coffee.

 

[amy31416]

Stop. That's twice tonight you made me spill my coffee.

Mission accomplished. My work is done here.

Now what was the other time? Hmmm....

 

[LittleLightShining]

My only problem with making anything mandatory is that it doesn't take into account at all the wide variations in people. For instance, would you really want autistic, handicapped, down's syndrome, tourettes (the tic kind), or severely depressed kids being trained to use firearms? There has to be an out for those scenarios.

Points taken. I should have thought further into it. I guess I should think about establishing an advisory council.

You spoil my fun! Killjoy!

Sorry :o It just seems like something could go terribly awry, you know?

 

[amy31416]

Sorry :o It just seems like something could go terribly awry, you know?

I'm obviously kidding around--I started out in college as pre-med and then learned I would have to dissect a cadaver. I'm squeamish about medical stuff, I can do it if I have to, but I have a rather strong reaction to it--I'd never make it as a serial killer or a Mengele wanna-be.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Mission accomplished. My work is done here.

Now what was the other time? Hmmm....

This...

Originally Posted by JosephTheLibertarian
I would probably appoint closet friends and relatives to duties that they're interested in, ambassador is about all I can think of.

Something you need to confess, Joseph?

 

[amy31416]

This...



Something you need to confess, Joseph?

Ha--I dont' think I ever got a response from him over his closet friends either.

 

[klamath]

God! After reading this thread I need to reread my signature again

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Ha--I dont' think I ever got a response from him over his closet friends either.

I confess. I wish I could have you as my "closet friend."