You Tube Ad Contest: Ron Paul Superbowl Commercial

how about that "Hope Anthem" song with frankdoggs ad. I think the first 30 secs matches up decently with it and I'm sure that it can be edited to fit even better with all these AV whiz kids we have.
 
Cyclone said:
By the way, here are the terms of service to which you much agree:

You are sponsoring advertising with RonPaulBlimp.com, a for-profit political advertising agency. You are not making a donation to any political candidate or committee.

You will be entitled to a refund, minus any expenses, incurred if your message does not appear on the Skyship 600 for the specified amount of time that you purchased. However, if the advertising you purchase is oversold, we may substitute other advertising of equivalent value that expresses a similar message. For example, if all the advertising time is sold out on the blimp on a given day, we might add planes, balloons, parachuters, or other similar enhancements to the blimp rally. If the Skyship 600 flies with the advertising messages displayed, your purchase is not refundable.


Further, this is a super secret plan that they have intentionally refused to tell anyone about:

I questioned that wording and will work on getting some major disclosure up tomorrow. The way this project works the only money we will get is a commission from the Fox stations themselves. So the prices we'll quote on the disclosure will be the quote from the station and when we get that amount of money the ad will be paid for.


Instead, we have developed a plan to target potential Ron Paul voters during the Super Bowl at a significant discount. We are in the process of selecting and securing time slots for a Ron Paul Super Bowl commercial to run in upcoming Super Tuesday states that Ron Paul is most likely to benefit from.

Although we do not want to disclose our specific markets at this point, (no need give our competition our complete strategy) you can assume that we will not be advertising in Super Tuesday states such as Utah or Arkansas. Once we get closer to the game we will post an exact schedule of when and where they will air. The individual ad buys range in price from one to several thousand dollars. To give you an example of what type of magnitude we are talking about, for $100,000 we can reach around 5-6 million viewers who are in important Super Tuesday states.

As stated, we have already reserved ad time in some markets, as space is very limited and we didn't want to lose it. We must act fast to make this a success. In some markets we are finding that ad time during the game is sold out, so we are getting rates for the Pre and Post Game, which are still seen by about 70-90% of the people who watch the actual game.


Taken from their website.

Why do I attack these kinds of things so much? Because I am tired of being ripped off. I am tired of things changing at the last minute. I have no idea what they are selling and I find that terribly offensive. Give us money for we won't tell you what and then will tell you if you paid for it or not.

I read contracts. I know that I can depend on what they say. This contract says nothing. I find it impossible to believe that the station running the Super Bowl will decide out of the blue to give up the greatest ad time known to television at a substantial discount. That is outside the realm of believability.

Further, this says nothing about airing the ad on the station that is playing the super bowl. Nor does it say where the ads will be aired. First it says it will be in Super Tuesday states and then it says it will not be in Super Tuesday states.

What are you paying LPA to do? They will not be producing the commercial. They will not be testing it. They will be doing nothing at all except taking money out of this project. Heck, I can hand money over to a company to air an ad, can't you? You are willing to pay them for that?

Why would you decide to give them money and then let them decide what ad to air. What if you hate that ad? Then what? You have no recourse.

Again, here come all the people ignoring any actual questions and trying to get everyone excited over - well, we don't know what because it is a secret.

It is starting to look as if there are a lot of people here that are working for LPA trying to get this project to go.

Notice how they ignore any real questions. Notice how they go straight to talking about the project, but no one cares that they have no idea what this project is.

For heaven's sake people - if you read the text of that ad, they could be running this ad on the cooking channel during the super bowl. You have no idea what they are suggesting they are going to do. And yet, no one cares?

Either the people who do not care are being very foolish and just imagining something and assuming what they have imagined will be what happens or they are intentionally being obtuse and trying to deflect any questions about the project because they know they answers, they work for the blimp people and they are trying to make a lot of money off of you and they won't even tell you how much.


Have you ever hired ANYONE to do anything without asking how much it would cost?

Why doesn't anyone care about these questions?

Do you also see where they are getting prices for pre and post game ads? That is not an ad run during the Super Bowl.

At this point THEY don't know what they are going to be buying and yet they want you to donate to it.

Hey, I got a great bridge that we can re-name for 50k. Just send the money to my account.
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KM--Katharine Memole :-)
 
Cyclone said:
I politely ask you the following:

WILL YOU GET YOUR MONEY BACK IF THEY CANNOT FUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT?

WHAT CHANNEL DO THEY PLAN ON AIRING THE ADS?

WHAT TIME DO THEY PLAN ON AIRING THE ADS?

HOW MUCH MONEY ARE THEY TAKING FOR THEMSELVES?

It appears from your responses to my quote prior, which I admit I did not see, that you have nothing settled yet. Moreover, you state that it is expensive to run focus groups and to see which ads are more effective and therefore you imply that you will not be doing any of this. As a paid advertising agency, I would expect this action to be taken. As a volunteer just doing what they can, I would not.

Forgive the caps above, I didn't feel like re-typing the questions. But will you please answer them?
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I will politely re-ask you these questions. I see that you are taking a kickback for running the ads, that explains how you are getting paid but not how much. Perhaps when you get the details ironed out you can start getting the money.

I think a lot of people here have great ideas, ask for money, and then have to change things completely because they have not done their homework on the project. People around here like every other person on the planet like to know what they are buying before they spend the money. That is only reasonable.
 
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Mckarnin said:
KM--Katharine Memole :-)
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What are you paying LPA to do? They will not be producing the commercial. They will not be testing it. They will be doing nothing at all except taking money out of this project. Heck, I can hand money over to a company to air an ad, can't you? You are willing to pay them for that?
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Good idea. Why don't we test the ad on forums before using it. The suggestion about making sure it says "ron paul republican candidate" or some such is valid - still getting people saying he is an independent or libertarian or something.
 
erich17 said:
I would seriously recommend determining what the royalties would be in frankdogg's ad. The song is extremely well known and will immediately grab the audiences attention because most people actually like it. Honestly, please find out how much CCR charges.
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The song is perfect for the ad! I have someone researching researching the pricing on the rights and I'll let you all know when I know.
 
Cyclone said:
I politely ask you the following:

WILL YOU GET YOUR MONEY BACK IF THEY CANNOT FUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT?

WHAT CHANNEL DO THEY PLAN ON AIRING THE ADS?

WHAT TIME DO THEY PLAN ON AIRING THE ADS?

HOW MUCH MONEY ARE THEY TAKING FOR THEMSELVES?
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Let ME answer, even though I'm not involved.

If you read the original message, you will realize that they can't publicly post when/were the ads due to other candidates reading this. So, forget about questions 2 and 3.

How much money at they taking for themselves? From what I've seen, considering the hours these guys are putting in, it is considerably LESS than minimum wage. They have put their lives on hold for this.

As far as getting your money back, consider that you are donating to a very efficient organization that will use everybody's funds the best way they can. If all the money can't be used in the Super Bowl ads, then presumably it will go to fly the airplane banners of the sister company. It makes no sense to donate with an expectation of getting money back. Go back 20 years and try that with Mother Theresa.

I'm TOTALLY fine with their new project, and please give them a little respect. For weeks people were discussing Super Bowl ads and NOBODY was taking ACTION. Let them do their work and support them. Post your negativity somewhere else.
 
1) Do you want a RP ad during superbowl?
Absolutely--but following the plan of going local is probably better than national.
2) Will you support funding of this ad through http://www.ronpaulblimp.com/superbowl/ ? If not, how do you propose implementing this project?
I don't know yet, but I'm leaning towards Yes.
3) Which grassroot commercial would you nominate? Post a youtube link.


I absolutely believe that none of them are quite good enough yet. We need some incredible competition for the best ad in the next few days--it must be creative, professional, message oriented, include Ron Paul speaking (audio and video), and almost shocking.
 
parocks said:
They aren't trolls. She's part of the blimp team I believe.
Say what you want about the blimp, but I think she's the blimps PR
person, which makes her not a troll.
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Not sure if the troll comments were addressed to me but you are right, I am Katharine Memole, Project Manger of the Ron Paul Blimp and the Super Bowl/Super Bowl Sunday Commercials. I also try to keep up with Customer Relations..not as much as I'd like though.

K
 
Have Ron Paul do a new 30 second spot, then all the supporters will really want to hear it too :)
 
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