Tell that to YouTube.. seriously.
Fair Use..
and if they get pissed... take it down I suppose.. but something tells me they wont. And why not just try tracking down CCR and seeing if they'll let us use it?
You Tube Ad Contest: Ron Paul Superbowl Commercial
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Tell that to YouTube.. seriously.
Fair Use..
and if they get pissed... take it down I suppose.. but something tells me they wont. And why not just try tracking down CCR and seeing if they'll let us use it?
By the way, here are the terms of service to which you much agree:
You are sponsoring advertising with RonPaulBlimp.com, a for-profit political advertising agency. You are not making a donation to any political candidate or committee.
You will be entitled to a refund, minus any expenses, incurred if your message does not appear on the Skyship 600 for the specified amount of time that you purchased. However, if the advertising you purchase is oversold, we may substitute other advertising of equivalent value that expresses a similar message. For example, if all the advertising time is sold out on the blimp on a given day, we might add planes, balloons, parachuters, or other similar enhancements to the blimp rally. If the Skyship 600 flies with the advertising messages displayed, your purchase is not refundable.
Further, this is a super secret plan that they have intentionally refused to tell anyone about:
Instead, we have developed a plan to target potential Ron Paul voters during the Super Bowl at a significant discount. We are in the process of selecting and securing time slots for a Ron Paul Super Bowl commercial to run in upcoming Super Tuesday states that Ron Paul is most likely to benefit from.
Although we do not want to disclose our specific markets at this point, (no need give our competition our complete strategy) you can assume that we will not be advertising in Super Tuesday states such as Utah or Arkansas. Once we get closer to the game we will post an exact schedule of when and where they will air. The individual ad buys range in price from one to several thousand dollars. To give you an example of what type of magnitude we are talking about, for $100,000 we can reach around 5-6 million viewers who are in important Super Tuesday states.
As stated, we have already reserved ad time in some markets, as space is very limited and we didn't want to lose it. We must act fast to make this a success. In some markets we are finding that ad time during the game is sold out, so we are getting rates for the Pre and Post Game, which are still seen by about 70-90% of the people who watch the actual game.
Taken from their website.
Why do I attack these kinds of things so much? Because I am tired of being ripped off. I am tired of things changing at the last minute. I have no idea what they are selling and I find that terribly offensive. Give us money for we won't tell you what and then will tell you if you paid for it or not.
I read contracts. I know that I can depend on what they say. This contract says nothing. I find it impossible to believe that the station running the Super Bowl will decide out of the blue to give up the greatest ad time known to television at a substantial discount. That is outside the realm of believability.
Further, this says nothing about airing the ad on the station that is playing the super bowl. Nor does it say where the ads will be aired. First it says it will be in Super Tuesday states and then it says it will not be in Super Tuesday states.
What are you paying LPA to do? They will not be producing the commercial. They will not be testing it. They will be doing nothing at all except taking money out of this project. Heck, I can hand money over to a company to air an ad, can't you? You are willing to pay them for that?
Why would you decide to give them money and then let them decide what ad to air. What if you hate that ad? Then what? You have no recourse.
Again, here come all the people ignoring any actual questions and trying to get everyone excited over - well, we don't know what because it is a secret.
It is starting to look as if there are a lot of people here that are working for LPA trying to get this project to go.
Notice how they ignore any real questions. Notice how they go straight to talking about the project, but no one cares that they have no idea what this project is.
For heaven's sake people - if you read the text of that ad, they could be running this ad on the cooking channel during the super bowl. You have no idea what they are suggesting they are going to do. And yet, no one cares?
Either the people who do not care are being very foolish and just imagining something and assuming what they have imagined will be what happens or they are intentionally being obtuse and trying to deflect any questions about the project because they know they answers, they work for the blimp people and they are trying to make a lot of money off of you and they won't even tell you how much.
Have you ever hired ANYONE to do anything without asking how much it would cost?
Why doesn't anyone care about these questions?
Do you also see where they are getting prices for pre and post game ads? That is not an ad run during the Super Bowl.
At this point THEY don't know what they are going to be buying and yet they want you to donate to it.
Hey, I got a great bridge that we can re-name for 50k. Just send the money to my account.
You are sponsoring advertising with RonPaulBlimp.com, a for-profit political advertising agency. You are not making a donation to any political candidate or committee.
You will be entitled to a refund, minus any expenses, incurred if your message does not appear on the Skyship 600 for the specified amount of time that you purchased. However, if the advertising you purchase is oversold, we may substitute other advertising of equivalent value that expresses a similar message. For example, if all the advertising time is sold out on the blimp on a given day, we might add planes, balloons, parachuters, or other similar enhancements to the blimp rally. If the Skyship 600 flies with the advertising messages displayed, your purchase is not refundable.
Further, this is a super secret plan that they have intentionally refused to tell anyone about:
Instead, we have developed a plan to target potential Ron Paul voters during the Super Bowl at a significant discount. We are in the process of selecting and securing time slots for a Ron Paul Super Bowl commercial to run in upcoming Super Tuesday states that Ron Paul is most likely to benefit from.
Although we do not want to disclose our specific markets at this point, (no need give our competition our complete strategy) you can assume that we will not be advertising in Super Tuesday states such as Utah or Arkansas. Once we get closer to the game we will post an exact schedule of when and where they will air. The individual ad buys range in price from one to several thousand dollars. To give you an example of what type of magnitude we are talking about, for $100,000 we can reach around 5-6 million viewers who are in important Super Tuesday states.
As stated, we have already reserved ad time in some markets, as space is very limited and we didn't want to lose it. We must act fast to make this a success. In some markets we are finding that ad time during the game is sold out, so we are getting rates for the Pre and Post Game, which are still seen by about 70-90% of the people who watch the actual game.
Taken from their website.
Why do I attack these kinds of things so much? Because I am tired of being ripped off. I am tired of things changing at the last minute. I have no idea what they are selling and I find that terribly offensive. Give us money for we won't tell you what and then will tell you if you paid for it or not.
I read contracts. I know that I can depend on what they say. This contract says nothing. I find it impossible to believe that the station running the Super Bowl will decide out of the blue to give up the greatest ad time known to television at a substantial discount. That is outside the realm of believability.
Further, this says nothing about airing the ad on the station that is playing the super bowl. Nor does it say where the ads will be aired. First it says it will be in Super Tuesday states and then it says it will not be in Super Tuesday states.
What are you paying LPA to do? They will not be producing the commercial. They will not be testing it. They will be doing nothing at all except taking money out of this project. Heck, I can hand money over to a company to air an ad, can't you? You are willing to pay them for that?
Why would you decide to give them money and then let them decide what ad to air. What if you hate that ad? Then what? You have no recourse.
Again, here come all the people ignoring any actual questions and trying to get everyone excited over - well, we don't know what because it is a secret.
It is starting to look as if there are a lot of people here that are working for LPA trying to get this project to go.
Notice how they ignore any real questions. Notice how they go straight to talking about the project, but no one cares that they have no idea what this project is.
For heaven's sake people - if you read the text of that ad, they could be running this ad on the cooking channel during the super bowl. You have no idea what they are suggesting they are going to do. And yet, no one cares?
Either the people who do not care are being very foolish and just imagining something and assuming what they have imagined will be what happens or they are intentionally being obtuse and trying to deflect any questions about the project because they know they answers, they work for the blimp people and they are trying to make a lot of money off of you and they won't even tell you how much.
Have you ever hired ANYONE to do anything without asking how much it would cost?
Why doesn't anyone care about these questions?
Do you also see where they are getting prices for pre and post game ads? That is not an ad run during the Super Bowl.
At this point THEY don't know what they are going to be buying and yet they want you to donate to it.
Hey, I got a great bridge that we can re-name for 50k. Just send the money to my account.
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anarchy
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I think this one should go up. It's one of the most watched videos of youtube. But it's a 1 minute ad. I think its DEFINITELY worth the extra expense:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_gKOCb4QBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_gKOCb4QBA
RonRules
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Frankdogg's ad is ALMOST perfect. The music HAS to stay, just pay the royalties. This is PERFECT Superbowl music.
But, we need to get the 50+ folks on our side and some parts of the ad may scare them off.
I would remove the part "No More Income Tax" "No More IRS" and replace it with something more reasonable and less controversial like:
"A lean government" "To Save your Social Security"
I wrote to frankdogg as well.
But, we need to get the 50+ folks on our side and some parts of the ad may scare them off.
I would remove the part "No More Income Tax" "No More IRS" and replace it with something more reasonable and less controversial like:
"A lean government" "To Save your Social Security"
I wrote to frankdogg as well.
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i think the IRS thing would go over well. god forbid, people hate the IRS!
but on the other hand, i do understand where your coming from.
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the jeremiah black ads wouldnt be very effective for this audience. for a SB commercial to be effective it really needs to be entertaining foremost then informative second. frankdogg's ad is so good because it has a real patriotic feel to it and it grabs attention immediately
But frankdoggs ad doesn't speak. Do you think a text only ad is enough to capture attention?
UtahApocalypse
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I live in Utah and am sick of everyone that DOES NOT live here making assumptions.
Utah would be a great market for a Ad.
Fair Use does not apply when their is money involved.
I would seriously recommend determining what the royalties would be in frankdogg's ad. The song is extremely well known and will immediately grab the audiences attention because most people actually like it. Honestly, please find out how much CCR charges.
RonRules
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The NO IRS subject needs an explanation and there's no time for that in a SuperBowl commercial.
I totally believe that we can go back to 1997 spending levels and run an efficient government. (BTW, check Glenn Beck's most recent radio interview with Ron Paul. He was skeptical, but told Ron Paul that his staff checked into it and it's true that if we go back to govt spending of 10 years ago, we can get rid of the IRS).
So, having said that, the IRS thing is what most people DON'T BELIEVE. It's true but they don't believe it. Why be controversial? It's no time to assume that a Superbowl jock will go look up the country's finances in 1997 to confirm the ad. Drop the NO IRS stuff. It's not worth the risk.
Talk about Social Security instead. That's the main thing older folks are concerned about. They have paid in for 50 years and it's about to go bankrupt unless serious govt cuts are made.
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Yup. Using humour is always a good way to get positive attention.
Right. And they are accepting responsibility for a possible future lawsuit on the legality of it. They have a legal team that even NON-Americans can donate to (legal fees) and they are willing to accept the consequences if they are wrong. SO donate and do not worry about it. The worst that could happen is they will have to return your money after they have already spent it and the election is over..(as far as you are concerned, Cyclone..)
Your questions are reasonable, your delivery stinks. You should try to work on that.
RonRules
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Many people watch the SuperBowl in Sports bars. They turn off the sound during commercials.
Unfortunately, it would be over 30 seconds..but I like the emotion of it..
It must not only evoke emotion, but, as a superbowl ad, it really needs to be highly original...shocking in some way. All superbowl ads are different--you want people to talk about them. Although this one is probably not good to let people know about RP, it has the values that I am talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRSYrshSr8&NR=1
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