RadioDJforPaul
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Blimp!
You say you want a revolution?
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erin moore
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Kind of a "what would Ron do" stance? Good for you. Thanks for your service. I disagree with you though and will continue to support the project, as many will.
One quick question though: If in fact this is the huge success we all hope it will be, will you still be saying "ya but... it shouldnt have cost So much money," or whatever?
If this blimp flies and changes the landscape in this race, will you just be happy for those of us who are hapy with the way we spent our own money?
One quick question though: If in fact this is the huge success we all hope it will be, will you still be saying "ya but... it shouldnt have cost So much money," or whatever?
If this blimp flies and changes the landscape in this race, will you just be happy for those of us who are hapy with the way we spent our own money?
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Yes, I think you're looking for the authoritarian, tell everyone what to do with their own money forum.
Remember that profitable businesses have been by far the most successful advertising ventures in history. It is ignorance to try to halt this project for fear that it operates in some way as a business.
Already there is a lot of incentive for this project to be transparent and efficient. And God knows, if their efforts, despite the naysayers, actually accumulate more money than they spend, whilst promoting Ron Paul, then that should be a moment in capitalist history that we should celebrate.
I just hope they can can get off the ground and then survive through the primaries.
btw: LRC recently had to change their structure in order to promote Ron Paul. They survive on donations. Are they also thieving from the campaign?
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And maybe some people think the blimp money is in fact being spent wisely and conservatively. You're not addressing this perspective, you're simply asserting your premise that it is wasted money. This approach will not win many arguments. Regardless of how right you may be. And if it does win any arguments, it won't be due to good reasoning, but merely because you drilled a point forcefully into someone's head. I suppose you may think that such an approach is appropriate at this point, but clearly not many people are appreciating your attempts.
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Believe it or not, at the end of the day Ron Paul is not important. The message of individual liberty is. Trusting one man, and one man only, to make everything right what's wrong is a recipe for disappointment, and so much not the libertarian way. Trusting other people with their own individual ideas, and allowing them to pursue them, is however. Like him or not, Trevor is such an individual. Vote for him with your wallet, or not, either way at least you know he won't force you to pay for blimps, ever.
Please stop attacking people for being new.
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What you don't know is those lawyers are really hired goons, that's why they're not in a suit...
*knock knock*
Who's there?
Hired goons for Trevor
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Oh and I wanted to make another point about the brillance of it all...
Non-citizens. I was talking to a guy in the mall who was trying to sell me lotion. He asked me about my Ron Paul button and after a few minutes -a slim jim and a liberty card he thought Ron sounded great. He said he was not a citizen but paid very close attention to American politics because it affects the whole world and one day he would like to be a citizen.
I did not occur to me at the time to pulg the blimp, but that is a great way for the rest of the world to show their support for a new direction in America.
Perhaps others have already pointed this out, but it just occured to me a moment ago. Are there any of you who have ideas about promoting Dr. Paul and the blimp prohect directly to concerned non-citizens?
Non-citizens. I was talking to a guy in the mall who was trying to sell me lotion. He asked me about my Ron Paul button and after a few minutes -a slim jim and a liberty card he thought Ron sounded great. He said he was not a citizen but paid very close attention to American politics because it affects the whole world and one day he would like to be a citizen.
I did not occur to me at the time to pulg the blimp, but that is a great way for the rest of the world to show their support for a new direction in America.
Perhaps others have already pointed this out, but it just occured to me a moment ago. Are there any of you who have ideas about promoting Dr. Paul and the blimp prohect directly to concerned non-citizens?
Sorry, but I would rather trust Ron Paul over a company who gathered everyone's trust, and is now using that trust to siphon tens of thousands of dollars from the campaign. Again, I'm not talking about the fees associated with the blimp, I'm talking about the UNNEEDED EXPENSES that they threw in to take advantage of weak minded people who thinks that going elsewhere or speaking up is "negative".
Normally when someone overcharges, you go to the next seller, you don't cheer them on for it. That's what's great about living in a free market. You guys on the other hand, want to cheer them on for no other reason than the fact that not doing so would be negative (a marketer's wet dream). Not a single person has justified the fees, or have even tried to. The only responses I get are either by kiddies calling me various internet slang insults, or people calling me a downer. Whatever happened to the urge to do this RIGHT?
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Ah, we're weak minded people now, we need to be protected right? Geez, where have I heard that before. Oh that's right, it was in my own country (the Netherlands) where a new socialist government just took over and decided to raise taxes on wine, cigarettes and bad food, and outlaw a bunch of other things that are supposedly bad for me. For my own good ofcourse, they're here to help me, how could I possibly know what's good for me myself.
Oh well, let's shake hands and agree to disagree while allowing each other to pay for this frigging blimp or not, ok? Hell I can't even pay for it since I'm not American, what am I getting all worked up for?
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Erin, Thanks.
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Thats what I was just asking about. I thought anybody could donate to this because its a private coompany.
What's the rule?
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There's definately some sort of legality, probably because the money is going to promote a candidate for public office. I'm sure the company would love to take purchases from international folks, if they could.
(btw, it's on the faq or terms page, i think)
Need to sit back and look at the big picture
Seems to me this is a grass roots effort. So nothings changed. We all know it was set up this way so that the project could move forward. Had to be done, legal issues!
If someone is getting paid to manage the blimp project it's fine with me. The people managing the Ron Paul campaign also get paid... Oh surprise! I don't see anyone complaining about them getting paid. What's with the double standard.
Can you imagine all the time already put in for setting this all up and building a new website for this project. That's a lot of work! I don't think the managers at the Ron Paul campaign or this project have anything on their mind but for Ron Paul to win!
Getting the message out with media coverage is critical at this point!
I got an idea, lets rent the biggest blimp we can find and fly it over Boston Harbor for the TEA PARTY 07 moneybomb! How about all the major cities all up and down the east Coast too! Great idea! What do you think?
Seems to me this is a grass roots effort. So nothings changed. We all know it was set up this way so that the project could move forward. Had to be done, legal issues!
If someone is getting paid to manage the blimp project it's fine with me. The people managing the Ron Paul campaign also get paid... Oh surprise! I don't see anyone complaining about them getting paid. What's with the double standard.
Can you imagine all the time already put in for setting this all up and building a new website for this project. That's a lot of work! I don't think the managers at the Ron Paul campaign or this project have anything on their mind but for Ron Paul to win!
Getting the message out with media coverage is critical at this point!
I got an idea, lets rent the biggest blimp we can find and fly it over Boston Harbor for the TEA PARTY 07 moneybomb! How about all the major cities all up and down the east Coast too! Great idea! What do you think?
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It's because they're hypocrites. You can bet your ass that most of the people selling Ron Paul campaign materials are making a profit from it. I'm just pointing that out, I don't have a problem with it. People can choose where they get their supplies. If anyone is against the blimp because it has now been set up as a business in order to make it happen, they need to put their money where their mouth is and start dogging and boycotting all of the people who sell Ron Paul advertising materials via their business.
People are talking about backing out on their pledges because it is now set up with a possibility of being an ongoing thing and that it's a business now. I for one kept my word and donated my pledge of $100. I pledged that to see it fly for a month, and if the result is lackluster I won't contribute more. If it's a big hit and gets lots of press, then I might consider donating more.
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I've only been following the blimp project for the past couple of days. I am not bothered in the least that it is a business, and I've done enough research to consider myself an educated consumer on this. I gave $25 last night because that is all I can afford right now. I know symbolically I paid for about two minutes of advertising, but that isn't what I really paid for. I have purchased two minutes of hemorrhoidal flare up for Sean Hannity this Christmas season. If my very special gift does not get delivered I'm holding all the blimp naysayers and saboteurs personally responsible.
Two.7 minutes of blimp time: $25
Hemorrhoid flare up for Sean Hannity for X-Mas: Priceless....
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