V4Vendetta
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Call them up, and tell them that they are TRAITORS to the Republic
Yesterday, 68 Senators violated their oaths of office
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Lets hope they keep that spine.
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These Senators should be tried at Nuremburg for committing crimes against humanity and hung like their Nazi predecessors.
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Has any playwright written or produced a play about George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, etc., being put on trial at Nuremberg like the Nazis where several witnesses testify to their various crimes committed since 2001???
McLame stands above everyone wanting to be POTUS, doesn't he.
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Here is the reply from "Norm-nuts" ...
Dear Mr. Burgess:
Thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding the proposal for immunity for telecommunication companies included in the modernization of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). I respectfully disagree with your view on this matter.
I believe that it is unfair to penalize companies for responding to written assurances from the highest levels of the government that their help is legal and essential for saving lives. The immunity provision will only apply to companies if they have official documents from the government demonstrating the activities were deemed legal and authorized by the President. I would also point out that the Senate Intelligence Committee looked into this matter and found that the telecom companies acted in "good faith" based on the information they had.
Whether the government acted properly is a different question from whether a private person has acted properly in responding to the government's call for help. I have supported efforts to investigate the legality of the wireless surveillance program, and believe that if any wrongdoing is found, measures should be taken accordingly.
As you may know, the FISA Amendments Act of 2007 (S. 2248) was introduced by Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) on October 26, 2007. This bill seeks to amend the FISA Act of 1978 in order to modernize and streamline its provisions, which is necessary for our country to enhance our nation's capability to prevent future terrorist attacks. S. 2248 also includes a retroactive liability protection for telecommunication companies that assisted our government in a warrantless surveillance program in the aftermath of the September 11th terrorist attacks on the U.S. The bill was approved by the Intelligence Committee on a bipartisan basis and currently awaits consideration by the full Senate.
I support national intelligence activities undertaken by the federal government which are lawful and necessary for the pursuit of terrorists. I recognize that we need to strike a balance between preventing another terrorist attack and defending civil liberties. For this reason I am a strong proponent of Congressional oversight of surveillance activities.
I will continue to follow this important issue. While we may agree on some issues and disagree on others, I appreciate hearing from you and hope you will not hesitate to contact me on any issue of concern to you.
Sincerely,
Norm Coleman
United States Senate
Dear Mr. Burgess:
Thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding the proposal for immunity for telecommunication companies included in the modernization of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). I respectfully disagree with your view on this matter.
I believe that it is unfair to penalize companies for responding to written assurances from the highest levels of the government that their help is legal and essential for saving lives. The immunity provision will only apply to companies if they have official documents from the government demonstrating the activities were deemed legal and authorized by the President. I would also point out that the Senate Intelligence Committee looked into this matter and found that the telecom companies acted in "good faith" based on the information they had.
Whether the government acted properly is a different question from whether a private person has acted properly in responding to the government's call for help. I have supported efforts to investigate the legality of the wireless surveillance program, and believe that if any wrongdoing is found, measures should be taken accordingly.
As you may know, the FISA Amendments Act of 2007 (S. 2248) was introduced by Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) on October 26, 2007. This bill seeks to amend the FISA Act of 1978 in order to modernize and streamline its provisions, which is necessary for our country to enhance our nation's capability to prevent future terrorist attacks. S. 2248 also includes a retroactive liability protection for telecommunication companies that assisted our government in a warrantless surveillance program in the aftermath of the September 11th terrorist attacks on the U.S. The bill was approved by the Intelligence Committee on a bipartisan basis and currently awaits consideration by the full Senate.
I support national intelligence activities undertaken by the federal government which are lawful and necessary for the pursuit of terrorists. I recognize that we need to strike a balance between preventing another terrorist attack and defending civil liberties. For this reason I am a strong proponent of Congressional oversight of surveillance activities.
I will continue to follow this important issue. While we may agree on some issues and disagree on others, I appreciate hearing from you and hope you will not hesitate to contact me on any issue of concern to you.
Sincerely,
Norm Coleman
United States Senate
CurtisLow
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Here is a great aid in writing your Senator
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
Free EMail + you can have your letter posted on there site without your name on it... Very cool!!!
For $8.00 you can have you letter hand delivered to the person your writing.
Here's mine,
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?id=497&letter_id=1746321546
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Since I'm not a good letter writer I used a couple of letters on this thread then combined them.. This is what my Frankenstein came out to be...lol
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Dear Senator Arlen Specter,
Looking up the precise definition of "outrage", I find that "the anger and resentment aroused by injury or insult" as the result of your misguided views and I was shocked to see that you voted for the FISA Amendment Act of 2007, S. 2248. I do believe we must protect ourselves from enemy threats, but never do I believe that we must give up our right to privacy as described in our constitution. This bill is unconstitutional, and by voting for it you have broken your oath of office.
When will Politicians have the backbone to stand up against those forces that would divided our state and country.
This bill gives our president the power to conduct what amounts to warrantless searches of American citizens. It also forgives private companies immunity for assisting the president in these unconstitutional searches. This power can potentially be used against the citizens of your state, in a breach of their constitutional rights.
Have you become so drunk with fear of the boogieman that you are willing to give up your right to privacy? Or drunk with the power that submitting your constituents to this might bring?
You can write me down as someone who will not support for you next go round. I value my privacy and think that I have a right to it. I think that right is conferred by the constitution and should not be abrogated on a whim (fear -- is that your justification, I would like to know). This bill gives government undue power over the people. Something it should not have.
p.s. Please do not have an intern/secretary reply to me with some scripted message (no offense to those who might read this before Senator Arlen Specter). I would prefer for you reply to me yourself.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." – Benjamin Franklin
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
Free EMail + you can have your letter posted on there site without your name on it... Very cool!!!
For $8.00 you can have you letter hand delivered to the person your writing.
Here's mine,
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?id=497&letter_id=1746321546
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Since I'm not a good letter writer I used a couple of letters on this thread then combined them.. This is what my Frankenstein came out to be...lol
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Dear Senator Arlen Specter,
Looking up the precise definition of "outrage", I find that "the anger and resentment aroused by injury or insult" as the result of your misguided views and I was shocked to see that you voted for the FISA Amendment Act of 2007, S. 2248. I do believe we must protect ourselves from enemy threats, but never do I believe that we must give up our right to privacy as described in our constitution. This bill is unconstitutional, and by voting for it you have broken your oath of office.
When will Politicians have the backbone to stand up against those forces that would divided our state and country.
This bill gives our president the power to conduct what amounts to warrantless searches of American citizens. It also forgives private companies immunity for assisting the president in these unconstitutional searches. This power can potentially be used against the citizens of your state, in a breach of their constitutional rights.
Have you become so drunk with fear of the boogieman that you are willing to give up your right to privacy? Or drunk with the power that submitting your constituents to this might bring?
You can write me down as someone who will not support for you next go round. I value my privacy and think that I have a right to it. I think that right is conferred by the constitution and should not be abrogated on a whim (fear -- is that your justification, I would like to know). This bill gives government undue power over the people. Something it should not have.
p.s. Please do not have an intern/secretary reply to me with some scripted message (no offense to those who might read this before Senator Arlen Specter). I would prefer for you reply to me yourself.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." – Benjamin Franklin
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Yeah, I don't really like her either, but at least she voted against the bill. I sent her a message saying I disagree with her on most issues, but thanked her for voting against it.
Did these same people vote for or against the PATRIOT act?
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