Write-In Vote? Ron Says NO

[libertarian4321]

Barr and Baldwin need to work some issues out and run a Barr/Baldwin ticket.
I put Barr first because the LP has been around longer.

Last night, around 7:45 PM EST, I briefly saw something on the "trailer" on MSNBC saying something about Ron Paul joining Barr on the LP ticket. I saw it once, then it never showed up again. I assume it was an error.

Did anyone else see it, or know anything about it?

 

[nbhadja]

Obama also will not guarantee a Iraqi troop pullout until at least 2013. http://action.richardsonforpresident.com/page/content/2013/obamarecord/


Obama's comments represent a direct response to attacks launched by aides to Senator Hillary Clinton of New York, who have pointed out that despite Obama's antiwar rhetoric, he has voted along with Clinton for some $300 billion in war funding since entering the Senate in 2005.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/03/22/obama_defends_votes_in_favor_of_iraq_funding/


The war started in 2003.

 

[EastWindRain]

It doesn't matter whether or not Obama or McCain get the Presidency. America gets screwed just the same. You people should not get hung up on this. What matters is how many votes the third party system can get. This way next time around the people will have more faith in the 3rd party system, if they can see that it made huge gains in the 08 election. Then they will start to take 3rd parties seriously.

 

[libertarian4321]

Obama voted to fund the war MULTIPLE TIMES INCLUDING AFTER IT STARTED!
Obama will also not guarantee a pull out by 2013.

Well, yeah, he voted to fund it after it started. Not much need to fund a war that isn't being fought yet, lol.

Again, if you think a guy like McCain, who gleefully votes for to start the war, wants to continue the war indefinitely, and seems bent on pushing for yet another war, is "the same" as a guy who opposes starting the war, but agrees to fund the troops after they are already in battle, there really isn't much chance we can have a rational discussion.

 

[newbitech]

That makes no sense. If you vote for obama...you will get status quo. You must be voting for him because you like to be associated with a "winner". Ron Paul was trendy...now Obama is trendy. It seems to be a popularity contest with you kids...like voting for the quarterback for prom king and the head cheerleader for prom queen. This is much more important than following the crowd. TONES

why don't you go back and read all my comments in this thread? I made it clear what my decision making process is. I am sorry that it makes no sense to you why people do the things they do. I tried to explain, but you would rather guess based on your own understanding and not have an open mind and share in constructive thought process and decision making.

We get the status quo until the CPL starts bearing fruit. This means we need people running on Ron Paul's platform which is Republican, not 3rd party and not useless write-ins. You can call me kid when you freeze time for about 30 years.

And one more thing, some good advise that might not be totally relevant but good advise non the less.

I was once told long ago by an ex girlfriends father two things that I carry with me to this day.

1.) Every once in a while its good to step outside and spell the air.
2.) If you want to change the system, you have to become a part of the system and change it from the inside out.

 

[libertarian4321]

Ron Paul was trendy

If only that were true, we might be happily heading to St. Paul to nominate the first decent Republican nominee in decades- Dr. RON PAUL!

 

[sidster]

I don't care. I'm writing in Ron Paul, that will be the ONLY contest I vote in, and this will be the last time I EVER vote.

Only registered so I would have this one opportunity to vote for the man, and that's what I mean to do.

Same here. I will be writing in "RON PAUL". It is my vote. There isn't
any other person who is running who has inspired me so.

 

[nbhadja]

Well, yeah, he voted to fund it after it started. Not much need to fund a war that isn't being fought yet, lol.

Again, if you think a guy like McCain, who gleefully votes for to start the war, wants to continue the war indefinitely, and seems bent on pushing for yet another war, is "the same" as a guy who opposes starting the war, but agrees to fund the troops after they are already in battle, there really isn't much chance we can have a rational discussion.

I hate McCain, he is just as bad as Obama.

And what are you talking about??

IF YOU OPPOSE A WAR YOU DO NOT VOTE TO FUND IT FOR 300 BILLION DOLLARS while your country is 9 trillion dollars in debt!!! That seems like a top priority for Obama.

The only difference between Obama and McCain is that McCain admitted he was supporting the war while Obama lied and said he was not while he actually was supporting it by voting to fund it for 300 billion dollars.


You think Obama does not want to invade Iran or Pakistan????

 

[anaconda]

If you vote for Obama or McCain then you have wasted your time campaigning for Ron Paul.

Your vote must go to someone else. Vote Libertarian, Constitution. The Republicans will be pissed off and ready to start changing their platform for 2010 when they see the Paul vote going elsewhere. and when they see the Paul Revolution growing in leaps and bounds by 2010.

Don't sell out your vote to this corrupt and laughable false choice.

 

[SLSteven]

I urge people to not be lured into the Obama versus McCain frenzy that everyone will be pushing. We need to stand out from the crowd and support liberty.

 

[newbitech]

It doesn't matter whether or not Obama or McCain get the Presidency. America gets screwed just the same. You people should not get hung up on this. What matters is how many votes the third party system can get. This way next time around the people will have more faith in the 3rd party system, if they can see that it made huge gains in the 08 election. Then they will start to take 3rd parties seriously.

the problem I have with that is it goes against what Ron Paul was trying to accomplish. Ron Paul did not advocate 3rd parties because the don't work. He was and is trying to restore the republic through old school Republican values. If we had a functional republican party in 2010, we could start picking up political power immediately (relatively) rather than waiting another 20 years to start have success with the 3rd party factions. If we bring people back to a true Republican form of government by 2010, the various 3rd party factions will have to unite and continue convincing traditional voters to look at the issues and choose a weaker organization to run the country and make the laws.

Especially if Obama's first 2 years show some turn around like I suspect it will. Then we will be arguing against him from no less than 3 THREE platforms. Libs, Repubs, and Constitutionals. Thats not going to work, we will need a united front to defeat the elites in 2010.

 

[anaconda]

Third parties will work if they are big enough. The Revolution stands to become formidable in size. My concern about trying to take over the Republican Party is that it is rampant with corruption and the rank and file are sheeple who don't understand the Constitution or the intent of the Founders. To make matters worse, rank and file Republicans never question their party elite. They blindly condone everything their administration does. These are not the kind of people that make good activists.

Let them come to us. They will NEVER win another election without our vote if the Revolution gets just a wee bit bigger, and this is inevitable if we don't give up the fight.

More and more Democrats will defect to the Revolution, too. Especially when they experience the horrific disillusionment that is inevitable with an Obama administration. After about 18 months people who voted for him will be going..."I've made a terrible mistake..."

And McCain is so pathetic that it doesn't even deserve comment.

I say we wait until RP tells us to vote Republican, through the CFL. You know, it can be an election by election decision. As in, who will the CFL endorse?!! Won't that be cool. Dems and Reps will be freedom-izing their platforms so they can get our endorsement. This is another reason why it's important for the Revolution to try to consolidate our vote. I would actually prefer that RP endorse someone and then we all vote accordingly.

 

[libertarian4321]

You think Obama does not want to invade Iran or Pakistan????

Correct. I don't think every politician is a warmonger- just those who seem to gleefully clamor for war (e.g. Bush and McCain).

 

[EastWindRain]

This reminds me of the song played in the first two minutes of the film called "Comprehensive Annual Financial Report" available on Google Video. The words are as follows. (I don't know who the author is or the name of the song)



Bankers whispered to Politicians "Socialism will make you rich".
60 years behind the throttle, the new world was right on track.
The United Nations army, will enforce their Global Plan.
Rosenfeld to Clinton, their traitors every man.

Congress sold out the country, our treasury is broke.
You can't redeem America with Federal Reserve Notes.
The ballot box quite working, the Cartridge Box is Freedom's key.
It all over about the fighting, the fat lady is about to sing.

They stole our silver, they stole our gold.
They took our steel, they took our coal.
They stripped our trees and robbed the road
And sold our jobs to Mexico.

Congress sold out the country, our treasury is broke.
You can't redeem America with Federal Reserve Notes.
The ballot box quite working, the Cartridge Box is Freedom's key.
It all over about the fighting, the fat lady is about to sing.

You can call me a right wing wacko, I read the writings on the wall
I also read the bible, God's saddle is about to fall. (They sold out!)

The ballot box quite working, the fat lady is about to sing.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5823209513192072459&hl=en

 

[acptulsa]

Totally right. I remember how Bush was elected on the "no nation building" thing. Man, that really tied his hands.

You go show these people. You'll make a huge statement by voting for Obama.

Don't know whether to laugh or cry. Maybe I'll just quote for truth.

 

[Alex Libman]

I agree, writing in a candidate is pointless, especially one who isn't even running. I've supported Mary Ruwart for LP nomination as an idealist protest vote, and now I'm supporting Bob Barr. He's the most (small-l) libertarian candidate on the ticket. If someone even more libertarian would run (at least in my state, since there's no time to mount a nation-wide campaign from scratch), I'd support that person instead. Baldwin is far, FAR too theocratic for me.

So... Bob Barr FTW!

 

[Kade]

The point is, McCain and Obama are owned by the same people. Voting for either one of them is keeping yourself in the trap. They will both take this country to the same destination.

What are you talking about?! Please, I'm begging you folks, stop the insanity.

 

[TruckinMike]

Stand back here comes another swing...

I should throw my support behind the complete opposite of what is in power now. That means I vote for Obama.

How do you say "thats the most ridiculous quote I've ever seen on this forum" -- without offending the person that said it? I'm trying to be polite.

PS: DirkNB is right!!

and kade, I agree,

Please... stop the insanity.

TMike

 

[Kade]

Stand back here comes another swing...



How do you say "thats the most ridiculous quote I've ever seen on this forum" -- without offending the person that said it? I'm trying to be polite.

PS: DirkNB is right!!

and kade, I agree,

TMike

Trash.

 

[acptulsa]

What are you talking about?! Please, I'm begging you folks, stop the insanity.

Do you really think that you have more influence with either of them than the K Street lobbyists? Or do you just dislike the metaphor?