WOW YOU GUYS ARE WRONG ABOUT OBAMA!!! HE IS DOING AN AWESOME JOB!!! SEE THE FACTS HERE!
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brushfire
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Meh... its all bush's fault, right? 
Next time a customer hires me to clean up a failed implementation, I'm going to deliver nothing.
Then I'll simply offer the excuse that my being ineffective was due to the mess left by the last guy. We'll see how long I stay in business
Obama owns this - it was no secret coming in. He was "hired" to fix the mess - no excuses.
Next time a customer hires me to clean up a failed implementation, I'm going to deliver nothing.
Then I'll simply offer the excuse that my being ineffective was due to the mess left by the last guy. We'll see how long I stay in business
Obama owns this - it was no secret coming in. He was "hired" to fix the mess - no excuses.
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My beef with with Obama is that he continued to do the shit Bush did. Screw that guy.
Yes it was, here is a PolitiFact Article- http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...e-bachmann-says-gasoline-cost-179-gallon-whe/
January 2009(which what I assume you mean), when Obama was sworn it, it was around $1.80.
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Yesterday in 1982 , I think we were around 91 cents.
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You're right.
I found these two interesting links as well:
A forum telling what the gas price was day by day at the beginning of 2009:
http://www.topix.com/forum/state/tx/T773MO9GDQCHOIJCJ
Someone who plotted the actual price of the gas that they bought for the last 32 years:
http://www.randomuseless.info/gasprice/gasprice.html
(Super-unleaded, by the way.)
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Why the super ? What is it , usually 10 or fifteen cents more ? I paid 2.99 last night , first time I can remember under Three bucks anytime lately.
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I don't buy it anymore, but I did for a commute over a fairly steep Mountain (a Pennsylvanian mountain - not a Utah mountain.
) each day when I went to work. The high test gave me more power and better gas mileage. I don't see much of difference when it's fairly flat. I'm sure that it depends a lot on the car.
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Rejoice, I saw a Shell station selling gasoline for $4.89 last night, in Los Angeles.
This is why I love riding a Kawasaki.
I agree. If the government did not manipulate the numbers, those would be significantly worse.
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did someone forget to tell you ?Most of those jobs are government jobs.................
The engine's compression ratio determines what octane rating of gas you need. The higher the octane, the more resistant to burning it is. Most cars run around 8.5 to 1 compression ratio. Some engines run around 11:1; these are typically in your performance sports cars.
The reason for this is to prevent a premature combustion of the air-fuel mixture occurring because of the heat from the increased compression.
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Obama took office in the middle of the economic crash so certainly not all of that can be blamed on him.
We can step back one president and see how he did by comparison. Lets just take the GW Bush second term- instead of going back eight years to allow them closer the same amount of time. No- let's make it the same and go back three years to January 2006.
Unemployment 2006- 6.8 milllion
2009- 12.0 (a 76% increase)
Today- 13.1 (9.2% higher)
Unemployment rate 2006- 4.5%
2009- 7.8%
Today- 8.5%
Gasoline prices 2006- $2.31
2009- $1.85 (prices fell along with demand due to the economic collapse)
Today- $3.39
US Debt 2006- $8.1 trillion (it was $5.6 trillion when he took office in 2001 so it basically doubled under his watch)
2009- $10.6 trillion (31% increase)
Today: $15.2 trillion
Misery Indes (unemployment plus inflation rate) 2006- 8.5
2009- 7.8 (same as unemployment- means inflation was zero percent according to the chart)
Today- 11.9
Some of the other numbers I am not sure what they used so are harder to compare. As for the debt, spending is determined by Congress- the House of Representatives writes all spending legislation. Presidents only get to sign or veto it. Presidents get both too much credit as well as too much blame on the economy.
We can step back one president and see how he did by comparison. Lets just take the GW Bush second term- instead of going back eight years to allow them closer the same amount of time. No- let's make it the same and go back three years to January 2006.
Unemployment 2006- 6.8 milllion
2009- 12.0 (a 76% increase)
Today- 13.1 (9.2% higher)
Unemployment rate 2006- 4.5%
2009- 7.8%
Today- 8.5%
Gasoline prices 2006- $2.31
2009- $1.85 (prices fell along with demand due to the economic collapse)
Today- $3.39
US Debt 2006- $8.1 trillion (it was $5.6 trillion when he took office in 2001 so it basically doubled under his watch)
2009- $10.6 trillion (31% increase)
Today: $15.2 trillion
Misery Indes (unemployment plus inflation rate) 2006- 8.5
2009- 7.8 (same as unemployment- means inflation was zero percent according to the chart)
Today- 11.9
Some of the other numbers I am not sure what they used so are harder to compare. As for the debt, spending is determined by Congress- the House of Representatives writes all spending legislation. Presidents only get to sign or veto it. Presidents get both too much credit as well as too much blame on the economy.
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Zippyjuan
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Obama took office in the middle of the economic crash so certainly not all of that can be blamed on him.
We can step back one president and see how he did by comparison. Lets just take the GW Bush second term- instead of going back eight years to allow them closer the same amount of time. No- let's make it the same and go back three years to January 2006.
Unemployment 2006- 6.8 milllion
2009- 12.0
Today- 13.1
Unemployment rate 2006- 4.5%
2009- 7.8%
Today- 8.5%
Gasoline prices 2006- $2.31
2009- $1.85
Today- $3.39
US Debt 2006- $8.1 trillion
2009- $10.6 trillion
Today: $15.2 trillion
Misery Indes (unemployment plus inflation rate) 2006- 8.5
2009- 7.8 (same as unemployment- means inflation was zero percent according to the chart)
Today- 11.9
Some of the other numbers I am not sure what they used so are harder to compare.
I will add one figure- Dow Jones Industrials.
January 2006- roughly 11,000
January 2009- 8400
January 2012- 12,500
We can step back one president and see how he did by comparison. Lets just take the GW Bush second term- instead of going back eight years to allow them closer the same amount of time. No- let's make it the same and go back three years to January 2006.
Unemployment 2006- 6.8 milllion
2009- 12.0
Today- 13.1
Unemployment rate 2006- 4.5%
2009- 7.8%
Today- 8.5%
Gasoline prices 2006- $2.31
2009- $1.85
Today- $3.39
US Debt 2006- $8.1 trillion
2009- $10.6 trillion
Today: $15.2 trillion
Misery Indes (unemployment plus inflation rate) 2006- 8.5
2009- 7.8 (same as unemployment- means inflation was zero percent according to the chart)
Today- 11.9
Some of the other numbers I am not sure what they used so are harder to compare.
I will add one figure- Dow Jones Industrials.
January 2006- roughly 11,000
January 2009- 8400
January 2012- 12,500
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This was on my radar today as well. Seems to be going viral, so I made this to try to promote a real discussion about the root of the problem rather than promote bickering across party lines.
Have a look, and then let's spread THIS one!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?356029-Obama-AND-Bush-Economic-Record-(Fixed)
Have a look, and then let's spread THIS one!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?356029-Obama-AND-Bush-Economic-Record-(Fixed)
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