No you aren't. You're counted once as an employed person, if you happen to be polled.
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Benefits have nothing to do with the unemployment rate.
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Receiving benefits alone is not a measure of unemployment. You need to have not worked during the measurement period and also need to have been looking for a job during that time. Not acitvely looking? Not unemployed. Worked one day at one job or worked three jobs at once the whole time? You count as one employed person. A condition of receiving benefits is that you claim to be looking for work and once your benefits run out there is less of an incentive to lie about looking for work so the numbers reported looking for work may go down for those whose benefits ended but it was not the loss of benefits itself which led to them being no longer counted as unemployed.
Should somebody not looking for a job be counted as unemployed? I don't think they should.
Now there is a different figure- and that is the jobs numbers. That is the total number of jobs filled and if you hold three jobs you can count as three in this survey which is done by contacting employers and asking how many positions they have and how many they have hired or intend to hire. The unemployment figures come from contacting workers and asking them if they worked in the last four weeks (I think that is the time frame) and if they worked at all for pay during that time.
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I believe that sums it up quite nicely. Seriously, what's changed?
Unemployment Rate + Inflation Rate. Pretty good index, imo, except for all the deception in the inflation statistic.
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Going out and putting in job applications && not collecting benefits seems to qualify to the individual as "not looking".
I dont know how else to say or prove that the Unemployment Statistics are horrible lies purported with the sole intention of being misleading. Does anyone else remember the '99 Weekers'? It was plastered all over the MSM all summer, and now suddenly our unemployment rates drop? But no one seems to have a job still?
No it doesn't. If you're applying for jobs you are considered actively looking for work. Benefits have nothing to do with the rate.
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Really? So then how come every single one of my neighbors and other people I know are all unemployed? That is like 20 people. Are we doing something wrong? Or are the Stats just horse shit like I said earlier? Big difference between the U3 and U6 is the MSM reports only the U3, then spins everything off of that. So here is a choice between two statistics. One is usually lower, and one is usually higher. Your orders are to 'spin' it so Unemployment sounds as low as possible. Now pick between the two.
Better yet, go get a more accurate result than I can give you, more accurate than the Media is told to report, and more accurate than the Govt is willing to provide and I'll stop calling bullshit on Unemployment Statistics. You wont just believe them to be true, you will know they are true because you will have done the work yourself. If one only listens to someone else, it can only be a belief because the first hand knowledge that something is a fact is absent.
How do you know a Politician is Lying? His Lips are Moving!
Better yet, go get a more accurate result than I can give you, more accurate than the Media is told to report, and more accurate than the Govt is willing to provide and I'll stop calling bullshit on Unemployment Statistics. You wont just believe them to be true, you will know they are true because you will have done the work yourself. If one only listens to someone else, it can only be a belief because the first hand knowledge that something is a fact is absent.
How do you know a Politician is Lying? His Lips are Moving!
Well, it comes down to a question of definitions. I think most people think that a reasonable definition is the percentage of people who don't have a job but who are looking for work. People being underemployed (working below what they're qualified to do) is an important statistic, but I do not consider these people unemployed. U6 includes all kinds of people who have a job, and are thus not unemployed.
U-1 Persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force 5.0
U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force 4.9
U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (official unemployment rate) 8.5
U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers 9.1
U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force 10.0
U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force 15.2
U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force 4.9
U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (official unemployment rate) 8.5
U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers 9.1
U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force 10.0
U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force 15.2
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