Will you still support Justin as an Independent?

[TomtheTinker]

He has completely destroyed and wasted any cachet he had built throughout his political career. Even if he wins -- which is unlikely at this point-- his ability to get anything done has been, at best, severely limited.

Ron never got anything done, yet here we are.

 

[oyarde]

Support by voting for him if I lived there ? Yes . Giving money ? probably not as anything other than GOP .

 

[bubbleboy]

He should run as a Democrat.

 

[kahless]

He should run as a Democrat.

The left and the NeverTrumpers want him to run as a Libertarian candidate for President. A miscalculation if they think it will hurt Trump. What it would do is split the NeverTrump vote in both parties and take more votes away from Democrats since too many Democrats are fed up with how far left the party has gone. It is more likely they will vote for Trump than Amash.

Justin Amash is the anti-Ron Paul
He’s teaching libertarians how to lose
https://spectator.us/justin-amash-anti-ron-paul/

What Ron Paul did was to counteract neoconservatism in the Republican party with libertarianism and populism. Populism proved to be more potent, but libertarianism itself contributed important elements to populism, including an articulate anti-interventionist foreign policy and a sense of class warfare as about power, not just wealth. Amash was never comfortable with populism, but libertarianism without it has no market at all. The Washington Post and the NeverTrump neocons share Amash’s animosity toward Trump and the populist right, but they share even fewer of his professed principles than Trump does. Ron Paul won despite losing; Amash teaches libertarians simply how to lose by losing.

 

[devil21]

Didn't vote but poll results are pretty predictable.

 

[chudrockz]

I'll be MORE likely to support him as an Independent. I have grown so disgusted with politics since Trump v Hilary that I didn't even vote last time. First time in my life skipping an election.

To the extent the GOP is being remade in Trump's image, I really can't see ever supporting the party again.

 

[chudrockz]

Also, as far as whether his political career is over or not, one never knows. He could be the libertarian Bernie Sanders.

 

[PursuePeace]

This is essentially my same thoughts.

If I could vote for him I Would but until he shows he actually wants to win and has a realistic plan of it, financial support is not likely.

He could be working with trump and getting things done like rand is, instead he made an enemy of the president. And the democrats won't love him, so where is the upside to anything he's been doing lately?

Yeah, this is kind of my thinking at the moment, as well.

 

[Superfluous Man]

I'll be MORE likely to support him as an Independent. I have grown so disgusted with politics since Trump v Hilary that I didn't even vote last time. First time in my life skipping an election.

To the extent the GOP is being remade in Trump's image, I really can't see ever supporting the party again.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to chudrockz again."

 

[nikcers]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to chudrockz again."

Says the Mike Pence supporter.

 

[chudrockz]

Haha thank you. I was a tad worried coming back here. Most of my political discourse (such as it is) over the past couple of years has been on the comments section of the Yahoo news app. If you've not had the pleasure I'd avoid reading it. Most of the time the commentary is so ignorant it's literally impossible to discern what the opinion even is, let alone whether you agree with it or not!

I think I lose an IQ point for every comment I read there. God help us.

 

[Ender]

I'll be MORE likely to support him as an Independent. I have grown so disgusted with politics since Trump v Hilary that I didn't even vote last time. First time in my life skipping an election.

To the extent the GOP is being remade in Trump's image, I really can't see ever supporting the party again.

+rep

And I've never supported either party- 2nd verse same as the first.

 

[dannno]

I'll be MORE likely to support him as an Independent. I have grown so disgusted with politics since Trump v Hilary that I didn't even vote last time. First time in my life skipping an election.

Ironically, it was the first election in decades that actually mattered.

 

[kahless]

I'll be MORE likely to support him as an Independent. I have grown so disgusted with politics since Trump v Hilary that I didn't even vote last time. First time in my life skipping an election.

To the extent the GOP is being remade in Trump's image, I really can't see ever supporting the party again.

Amash electorally could not win and if he did his open border immigration policies will ensure he would be the final nail in the coffin for a limited government party candidate to get elected in the future.

Also, as far as whether his political career is over or not, one never knows. He could be the libertarian Bernie Sanders.

That would pull most votes away from the Democrats and a small minority of NeverTrumpers in the Republican party. It would ensure a Trump Presidency so I suppose it really does not matter what Amash does.

 

[pcosmar]

I wish him the best of luck but he needs to overcome his TDS.

Trump is Deranged..

Amash is just one that sees it.

 

[pcosmar]

Ironically, it was the first election in decades that actually mattered.

choice between Hillary (Known Evil) and a Lifetime democrat and Hillary supporter who joked about running as a Republican,,, and then bought the Party Nomination.

what part of the election mattered?

 

[kahless]

Trump is Deranged..

Amash is just one that sees it.

Even if Amash believes that he made an obvious strategic mistake that cost him his political career. What possible good did that do? Answer, none and his seat could potentially end up in the wrong hands.

 

[dannno]

choice between Hillary (Known Evil) and a Lifetime democrat and Hillary supporter who joked about running as a Republican,,, and then bought the Party Nomination.

what part of the election mattered?

Well, I like the fact that we have a President who stands up against the military industrial complex for a change.

Let's say Ron Paul is a 10 on foreign policy. Trump is still an 8. He still wants to bring our troops home, he thinks all the wars we are in were a waste of money. The difference is that Ron Paul wants to pull the troops out immediately whereas Trump wants to do it more strategically, and defeat ISIS first - we created ISIS, so it isn't totally unfair to ask us to get rid of that annoyance over there.

We had 16,000 troops in Afghanistan when Trump took office, now we are down to 9,000 and Trump is not done yet. He has also decreased our military presence in Syria. He has more work to do to bring more troops home, and that is all in his plans.

Hillary is a 1 or a 2 on foreign policy. The military industrial complex is a 1 on foreign policy on a scale of 10. I'll take an 8 over a 1 or 2 any day of the week.

Then we got a really good tax break, we got significant decreases in regulations and bureaucracy. With Hillary we would have seen tax increases and more government employees and more bureaucracy.

Then we have the fact that every single day, Trump eats the mainstream media for lunch - the propaganda arm is really the biggest enemy of the people, and Trump is helping destroy them.

If your idea of what is "better" than Hillary is Ron Paul, and nothing but Ron Paul, then you have a very skewed view on what preferences are and how life works.

Do I think Mitt Romney would be better than Hillary? No. How about McCain? Fuck no. John Kerry? Bush? Fuck to the no.. I know what you are getting at with the whole "they are all the same" thing.. and 99% of politicians are the same.

Trump is a million times better than Hillary, though. Sorry you can't see that.

 

[nikcers]

Well, I like the fact that we have a President who stands up against the military industrial complex for a change.

Let's say Ron Paul is a 10 on foreign policy. Trump is still an 8. He still wants to bring our troops home, he thinks all the wars we are in were a waste of money. The difference is that Ron Paul wants to pull the troops out immediately whereas Trump wants to do it more strategically, and defeat ISIS first - we created ISIS, so it isn't totally unfair to ask us to get rid of that annoyance over there.

We had 16,000 troops in Afghanistan when Trump took office, now we are down to 9,000 and Trump is not done yet.

Hillary is a 1 or a 2 on foreign policy. The military industrial complex is a 1 on foreign policy on a scale of 10. I'll take an 8 over a 1 or 2 any day of the week.

Then we got a really good tax break, we got significant decreases in regulations and bureaucracy. With Hillary we would have seen tax increases and more government employees and more bureaucracy.

If your idea of what is "better" than Hillary is Ron Paul, and nothing but Ron Paul, then you have a very skewed view on what preferences are and how life works.

Gettingg rid of ISIS was supposed to be a gesture of good faith, since ISIS was designed and created to go after our enemies in the middle east and fuel arms races that make a lot of profits.

 

[pcosmar]

Even if Amash believes that he made an obvious strategic mistake that cost him his political career. What possible good did that do? Answer, none and his seat could potentially end up in the wrong hands.

His Seat is in Michigan.

California learned it from the Michigan Socialists.