Will the r3VOLution be divided starting tomorrow? (with my list of pros and cons)

[Jeremy]

Yes I understand that they need to be registered for it to count in most jurisidictions, but I still can exercise my right to vote whether or not it will be counted. To me personally, voting for a 3rd party candidate is about the equivalent of doing so.

Voting 3rd party is the equivalent of not voting? I disagree. Those votes are counted. Barr is currently polling at 6%. Do you realize that only 1% is enough for the history books? I have a textbook on American Government right in front of me. There's a whole section about 3rd parties and they outline the most successful candidates. And when we get some people in the history books, perhaps they will explain why they did well... and have to point to the "revolution," for example.

I'll stay home if Barr is nominated. No point in exerting effort to go out and vote for the lesser of (3) evils. I hope there is someone on the ballet with a thorough understanding of libertarian principles.

And Chuck Baldwin? Why did you ignore him? We criticize the media for ignoring RP...

 

[crazyfingers]

And Chuck Baldwin? Why did you ignore him? We criticize the media for ignoring RP...

That's true. It’s just that I disagree vehemently with some elements of the CP's platform. However, if he does not campaign on those issues I’ll vote for him. Assuming the LP doesn’t nominate a libertarian, of course.

 

[Jeremy]

That's true. It’s just that I disagree vehemently with some elements of the CP's platform. However, if he does not campaign on those issues I’ll vote for him. Assuming the LP doesn’t nominate a libertarian, of course.

Well he's not campaigning on those issues. Somebody already asked him about them.

 

[dannno]

Barr- voted for patriot act, drug warrior

He's not a drug warrior, he has most recently lobbied for MMJ.

I see no reason to think that he has not genuinely changed his other positions.

 

[Perry]

I wont vote for Barr, W.A.R., or Baldwin. Reasons:

Barr- voted for patriot act, drug warrior

W.A.R. - neocon in disguise

Baldwin - bible thumper

You guys can vote for whoever you want though and we can still be friends.

Ron Paul is a bible thumper too. He prays to God/Jesus Christ every day and worships God almighty on Sunday.

 

[Jeremy]

If it's implied that you wouldn't vote for somebody because of their religion............ that's probably one of the most absurd things to say on a Ron Paul forum.

 

[yongrel]

It is completely irrelevant to me who the 3rd, 4th, and 5th party candidates are. I'm writing in Ron Paul and focusing on the congressional candidates. Life goes on.

 

[Jeremy]

It is completely irrelevant to me who the 3rd, 4th, and 5th party candidates are. I'm writing in Ron Paul and focusing on the congressional candidates. Life goes on.

Please read my other posts in this thread and either

1. Respond to those.
2. Realize I'm right.

:o

 

[LibertyEagle]

To me personally, voting for a 3rd party candidate is about the equivalent of doing so.

Yes, in most elections that's true. This one may be a bit different though. There are a lot of very ticked off people and they're not all Ron Paul Republicans.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I like what I've seen on Chuck Baldwin. I think he's the real deal, so he's probably the one I'm going to vote for, assuming Ron Paul is not on the ballot.

 

[runningdiz]

It's a fair question, and to answer it in my own opinion, I don't think so.

For me, the decision has been made to write-in Ron Paul. This makes whoever the Libertarian Party, Green Party, Spaghetti Monster Party, Strawberry Oreos for Yawheh Party completely irrelevant to me personally.

Since I don't care who is elected as the nominee of the other parties, I can focus on supporting candidates like Sabrin, Lawson etc.

My brain is too small to worry about so many things at once.

well said. Why do people care soo much about president?? Either Mccain or oboma will and most ron paul supporters will be voting for someone who has no chance so why make a big deal out of it. Lets concentrate on our candidates we all agree on Lawson, Sabrin, Vern and so on.... Those candidates will unite us not divide us

 

[1000-points-of-fright]

If it's implied that you wouldn't vote for somebody because of their religion............ that's probably one of the most absurd things to say on a Ron Paul forum.

I don't have a problem with Pastor Chuck. He seems to be a straight forward Constitutionalist. My problem is with the Constitution Party because beneath their strict constructionist platform is a theocratic foundation.

Chuck may not be running on those issues, but a significant showing for the CP will reinforce the notion that a growing segment of America wants to be ruled under God's law.

Don't get me started on this stupid idea of writing-in Ron Paul.

 

[Jeremy]

I don't have a problem with Pastor Chuck. He seems to be a straight forward Constitutionalist. My problem is with the Constitution Party because beneath their strict constructionist platform is a theocratic foundation.

Chuck may not be running on those issues, but a significant showing for the CP will reinforce the notion that a growing segment of America wants to be ruled under God's law.

Don't get me started on this stupid idea of writing-in Ron Paul.

Or look at it like this - A significant showing for Chuck will help change the party's views to only Constitution.

 

[Hook]

If you write-in Ron Paul your vote will essentially be thrown away. Unless RP registers as a write-in candidate... but he won't do that. I once said what you said - but it's the equivalent of not voting.

Depends on the state. Here in Utah, write-ins are tallied. You can even see them on the elections website.

 

[MMolloy]

One thing that is pissing me off... everyone here should know this one simple fact and they don't:

If THEY can tell you who is electable they have already won (controlled) the election.

ANYBODY on this forum who says they can't vote for someone "because they can't get elected" SHOULD BE SHOT

 

[OptionsTrader]

If you write-in Ron Paul your vote will essentially be thrown away. Unless RP registers as a write-in candidate... but he won't do that. I once said what you said - but it's the equivalent of not voting.

Why do you want to vote for who turns out to be the winner rather than voting for who represents your ideals most closely? Is there a prize for voting for who tunrs out to be the winner I do not know about? A warm fuzzy I told you so feeling perhaps? If there is I will consider voting for Obama if the prize for voting for the winner is sufficiently great, I can be bought at the right price.

 

[Sandra]

One thing that is pissing me off... everyone here should know this one simple fact and they don't:

If THEY can tell you who is electable they have already won (controlled) the election.

ANYBODY on this forum who says they can't vote for someone "because they can't get elected" SHOULD BE SHOT

+1

 

[OptionsTrader]

Our job is not our single vote. That is not the job of the activist.

My job is to convert everyone around me into a Ron Paul supporter, not a Bob Barr supporter or an Obama supporter or anyone else.

 

[hypnagogue]

Here's something to ponder. Clearly, voting for a lesser of a number of evils is worse than working to get someone not evil elected, but if the roster is already selected, is not voting better than voting for the least crappy candidate? I'm leaning towards no.

And I +1 the statement about worrying about electibility. We should know better than that. Vote your conscience.

Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of either Barr or Baldwin. I'm afraid I can't vote for a candidate from such an overtly religious party so I'm probably having to go Barr. I can only hope that he's shaped up since his last stint in Congress.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

I wont vote for Barr, W.A.R., or Baldwin. Reasons:

Barr- voted for patriot act, drug warrior

W.A.R. - neocon in disguise

Baldwin - bible thumper

You guys can vote for whoever you want though and we can still be friends.

Agree, and there are forums for other candidates.