Will the Libertarian Party Field A Candidate Against Presidential Candidate Rand Paul?

[CaptLouAlbano]

Yes, Glenn Beck stated that Ron Paul's foreign policy proposals are dangerous since they are abrupt as opposed to a stage by stage breakdown. Now to Beck's terrorist segment, watch it again and note that he says that most RP supporters are operating under a HARMLESS METAPHORICAL revolutionary premise as opposed to terroristic intent. That segment was completely overblown as usual. He never stated that Ron Paul supporters are terrorists. He was simply questioning the use of 'slippery slope' imagery.

Agreed. I believe it stems from the emotional attachment some people had to a political candidate. Their devotion to him is similar to the devotion that pre-teen girls have to the latest heartthrob pop star.

 

[compromise]

And others of you have no respect for his main principles at all. I sometimes wonder why some of you bothered to join up here...unless it was an attempt to co-opt Ron's r3volution (nicely played, too)

When I joined here, I agreed with Ron Paul. I no longer do. Like Ron does, I recognize Rand is a better political leader than he is.

Rand has successfully brought me over to agreeing with him on every issue through his strong arguments.

 

[cajuncocoa]

So maybe you are not correct in your belief, maybe these folks are the ones that are correct and you are wrong. See what happens when you split hairs over labels?

I would agree that Ron is not a strict libertarian, if one accepts that slogan I mentioned last night (pro-choice on everything)...by that criterion I'm not either. But Ron and I are both a closer fit to pure libertarianism than Beck or Hannity.

 

[AuH20]

Overblown in your opinion. I disagree.

For a libertarian, you sure are closeminded. I'll let you in on a dirty little secret. I am far more radical than you, but I understand that we are in the fight of our lives. We need every cook, doorman and rodeo clown to counter this statist takeover.

 

[cajuncocoa]

When I joined here, I agreed with Ron Paul. I no longer do. Like Ron does, I recognize Rand is a better political leader than he is.

Rand has successfully brought me over to agreeing with him on every issue through his strong arguments.

Good. Now we've identified the problem between us. I still stand with Ron.

 

[Carlybee]

Agreed. I believe it stems from the emotional attachment some people had to a political candidate. Their devotion to him is similar to the devotion that pre-teen girls have to the latest heartthrob pop star.

Thank God we had someone who inspired that kind of devotion. True statesmen are few and far between. True scholars and upholders of the Constitution as well. I will never apologize for being inspired by a great man. The same man without whom you would not have this venue to complain about him or his supporters.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

I would agree that Ron is not a strict libertarian, if one accepts that slogan I mentioned last night (pro-choice on everything)...by that criterion I'm not either. But Ron and I are both a closer fit to pure libertarianism than Beck or Hannity.

I think you should add, in your own opinion to that, because obviously there are people out there who would disagree with you. In fact, one of the articles called Ron Paul an embarrassment to libertarianism.

 

[enoch150]

Ron Paul has been highly successful. I don't understand your need to downplay Ron Paul's success.

Other than waking some people up, at what has he been highly successful? Don't get me wrong - that was critically important and he succeeded at it in a way unlike anyone in decades, and perhaps centuries. We won't know his full impact for years. It continues to snowball, inspiring candidates and leading to other successful elections which may, eventually, prove successful in having a major effect on policy.

But that success came from Ron Paul's Presidential runs. His terms in Congress did nothing other than lend enough credibility to get him on the Presidential debate stage - something which, theoretically, could be done from any party, as demonstrated by Ross Perot.

Ron Paul's career in Congress was unsuccessful except in setting the record for the largest number of 1 - 434 votes. As a matter of policy, his Congressional career accomplished nothing.

 

[cajuncocoa]

For a libertarian, you sure are closeminded. I'll let you in on a dirty little secret. I am far more radical than you, but I understand that we are in the fight of our lives. We need every cook, doorman and rodeo clown to counter this statist takeover.

My Dad always told me not to be so open-minded that my brain might fall out. I listened. You have to stand for something or you'll fall for anything.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

Thank God we had someone who inspired that kind of devotion. True statesmen are few and far between. True scholars and upholders of the Constitution as well. I will never apologize for being inspired by a great man. The same man without whom you would not have this venue to complain about him or his supporters.

That devotion is called hero worship, and it is never a good thing, regardless of whom the object of your devotion is. And regarding this place, it's a web forum. There are plenty of them out there. And I participate in others as well. This one though, is a lot more entertaining, and frankly a lot easier to navigate.

 

[PatriotOne]

My feelings don't enter into my voting decision honestly. I am in SC, whomever the GOP nominee is will win the state. I'll either vote for them or abstain. I won't vote for the LP candidate because it "feels better" to do so. If it is someone particularly good, I may cast a vote as a "protest vote", but that's unlikely. There is no emotion involved in my decision whatsoever.

You are a very logical person...spock-like. I'm heavy on the logic side also. Trying to convince emotionally driven people (and in some cases emotionally unstable people) using logic is darn near impossible. Maybe you should include feel good kitten/puppy pictures with every post?

 

[cajuncocoa]

Agreed. I believe it stems from the emotional attachment some people had to a political candidate. Their devotion to him is similar to the devotion that pre-teen girls have to the latest heartthrob pop star.

I haven't seen my teens for many years. I assure you, I'm grounded in principle here, not infatuation.

 

[cajuncocoa]

You are a very logical person...spock-like. I'm heavy on the logic side also. Trying to convince emotionally driven people (and in some cases emotionally unstable people) using logic is darn near impossible. Maybe you should include feel good kitten/puppy pictures with every post?

OK, we're going to start throwing around insults instead of having a discussion as adults. I'll catch up with the rest of you again when PO goes for a nap.

 

[Carlybee]

Okay this is just turning into a Ron Paul bashfest. All men are fallible, no one argues that, but some of these comments are just insulting. Don't be surprised when you start running people off that you might need later on.

 

[Carlybee]

That devotion is called hero worship, and it is never a good thing, regardless of whom the object of your devotion is. And regarding this place, it's a web forum. There are plenty of them out there. And I participate in others as well. This one though, is a lot more entertaining, and frankly a lot easier to navigate.

It's not hero worship..it's called respect. I'm not an Obamabot...that is hero worship.

 

[Carlybee]

You are a very logical person...spock-like. I'm heavy on the logic side also. Trying to convince emotionally driven people (and in some cases emotionally unstable people) using logic is darn near impossible. Maybe you should include feel good kitten/puppy pictures with every post?

Actually no, you are just insulting. I doubt logic figures into it much if at all.

 

[AuH20]

It's not hero worship..it's called respect. I'm not an Obamabot...that is hero worship.

We all respect Ron Paul. He's the John Baptist of a forgotten era. That's not to say he hasn't made his share of tactical mistakes.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

time for a group hug

 

[PatriotOne]

OK, we're going to start throwing around insults instead of having a discussion as adults. I'll catch up with the rest of you again when PO goes for a nap.

I decided long ago I was just wasting my time having a logical discussion with you. I'd rather beat my head against a brick wall.

 

[PatriotOne]

Actually no, you are just insulting. I doubt logic figures into it much if at all.

You and Cajun are easily in the top ten emotionally driven active members on this board.