Why was Bastiat's The Law banned?

[Nirvikalpa]

this forum is pretty lame; the "private property" argument, that we are all peasants who must avoid the arbitrary regulations of invisible ownership, is utterly ludicrous- the forums are called the Ron Paul forums- they belong to the ever-changing and growing Ron Paul meme. If the moderators want to invoke property rights as the basis for their behavior, the forums should be called, "Ron Paul Forum Moderators' Forum."

Lulz. I suggest not bringing attention to the fact you have been here before, as a quick search in the moderator panel leaves no doubt who you are, and other mods aren't as nice as me.

 

[man is truth]

you are acting as if I am desperate to maintain access to some kind of service or good with value, when I am actually arguing that this website is useless as a means of anything except stream-lining the moderators' internet clone-network. I just registered a sock puppet account to see if anyone asked about ol perfidy in the Off-Topic forums, which for reasons I cannot guess, are not accessible to unregistered lurkers.

 

[man is truth]

haha [email protected] anyone who wants to keep in touch.

(that's the stupidest thing about bans that must bring mods that glib and cruel satisfaction of the mediocre, knowing that they just totally cut individuals out of communication)

 

[Nirvikalpa]

you are acting as if I am desperate to maintain access to some kind of service or good with value, when I am actually arguing that this website is useless as a means of anything except stream-lining the moderators' internet clone-network. I just registered a sock puppet account to see if anyone asked about ol perfidy in the Off-Topic forums, which for reasons I cannot guess, are not accessible to unregistered lurkers.

If you really can not guess as to why the off-topic section [including HOT TOPICS] is not accessible to unregistered lurkers, than you are not as much of a philosopher as once previously thought.

I was actually trying to be nice - but do continue acting as if there's some giant stick lodged somewhere - not like I'm not used to NJ people acting like that. Cheers.

 

[man is truth]

I hope I run into you at a wawa. I still whistle the Christopher Walken trumpet from Prophecy 3, as posted in the Left Hand Path thread, so, you will know that it is me. Camden County left hand path!

 

[acptulsa]

The fact I am receiving -reps for my post explaining exactly why Bastiat/Rev9 is banned (AND I DIDN'T DO THE BANNING) goes exactly to show you why your pleas usually go unnoticed.

Just sayin'.

Seriously?

No wonder we never got explanations before...

Website moderation can so easily be solved through AI and a more robust rep system.

A computer as a mod?

Pfft. Throw 'em in the woods.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Seriously?

No wonder we never got explanations before...

You think that is bad, jj- (lpg) neg repped me for giving Nikki a compensatory +rep, claiming she was "making it up".

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Already happens all the time. Reputation has never been a good indication of the quality of posts people submit, because from the very start we've had users create alternate accounts to inflate their rep (and at the same time, inflate their rep power to take away more rep from those they disagree with).

Additionally, posters tend to believe reputation comments are hidden and between just the commenter and the persons' profile their commenting on - they're not - and if you are insulting/harassing/ad-hominem'ing people there you are still subject to the forum guidelines. There have been some truly nasty reputation messages left for users...

I see rep as nothing more than a high school popularity contest.

Yeah, I'm, not so hot on it either, but sometimes you want to acknowledge someone (+rep) without just saying "me too" in a thread. I think if someone neg reps you, it's much better with an explanation (not insult) than without. And I have also said I didn't think reps were particularly a value of post quality, while defending Uncle Emanuel Watkins of all people.

It doesn't seem like a lot of people -rep here, but if they believed they were helping moderate by doing so, it would likely encourage it.

 

[Dick Chaney]

People here actually give a damn what their rep is? Is there like a cash prize for whoever gets the most rep by a certain date that I don't know about?

 

[Origanalist]

Aren't family fueds fun????

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Aren't family fueds fun????

The problem with me is that I might perceive someone as completely wacked on one topic, but I forget the whole thing in the next thread. Some people seem like they follow others around continuing a years long feud. If anyone is feuding with me... I have no idea. I'm here talking about subjects... not talking to particular people. Unless it's a flame forum, that's how I perceive this stuff.

 

[LibertyEagle]

People here actually give a damn what their rep is? Is there like a cash prize for whoever gets the most rep by a certain date that I don't know about?

No, but with your name, you probably don't need to worry about it. lol

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

No, but with your name, you probably don't need to worry about it. lol

We all know he's not Dick 'Cha'ney anymore than Mitt Romney's Sideburns were ... anyway, you get the point. And I don't have any money. lol

 

[Origanalist]

The problem with me is that I might perceive someone as completely wacked on one topic, but I forget the whole thing in the next thread. Some people seem like they follow others around continuing a years long feud. If anyone is feuding with me... I have no idea. I'm here talking about subjects... not talking to particular people. Unless it's a flame forum, that's how I perceive this stuff.

Kind of my point, it's the "mom, he's touching me!!!" thing. I also go from agreeing to disagreeing with most everybody here.

 

[TheGrinch]

So someone who's been continually divisive gets permabanned, and someone who can be divisive at times gets temp-banned for 7 days, and this a source of outrage?

Moderation means keeping things on topic, cuz I get really tired of having to deal with divisive people stirring the pot.

Further, given that the one who was apprently permabanned was the one who refused to even give Rand the benefit of the doubt, the accusations in this thread seem a bit baseless. Seems much more an issue of keeping this a place where real discussion can happen, not the source of divisiveness on the few things we disagree about.

 

[PatriotOne]

So someone who's been continually divisive gets permabanned, and someone who can be divisive at times gets temp-banned for 7 days, and this a source of outrage?

Moderation means keeping things on topic, cuz I get really tired of having to deal with divisive people stirring the pot.

Further, given that the one who was apprently permabanned was the one who refused to even give Rand the benefit of the doubt, the accusations in this thread seem a bit baseless. Seems much more an issue of keeping this a place where real discussion can happen, not the source of divisiveness on the few things we disagree about.

Except Bastiat did nothing to deserve a ban other than Sailingaway fearing he would cause her Rand bashing buddy Cajun to say something and get banned during their conversation. So she banned Bastiat to protect Cajun from herself .

Bastiat is a victim of Sailingaways apparent "War on Brains" around here.

 

[TheGrinch]

Except Bastiat did nothing to deserve a ban other than Sailingaway fearing he would cause her Rand bashing buddy Cajun to say something and get banned during their conversation. So she banned Bastiat to protect Cajun from herself .

Bastiat is a victim of Sailingaways apparent "War on Brains" around here.

So then why was cajuncocoa banned? Doesn't that kind of spit in the face of this being an issue of taking sides?

 

[presence]

A computer as a mod?

Pfft. Throw 'em in the woods.

Moreso members self moderating with the computer keeping score.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Moreso members self moderating with the computer keeping score.

And I really like that idea, btw. I just see a lot of ways it can go wrong based on how people behave. So I'm not saying the idea is bad... only that it needs to be very carefully considered. It needs an algo where neg reps from one to another get less and less weight... and that being an asshat once and getting 100 neg reps in one thread for the same comment doesn't sink someone who is otherwise a good contributor. So I like it, but I think it requires a lot of thought to work the way most people here would want it to work.

 

[acptulsa]

Moreso members self moderating with the computer keeping score.

Indeed. Sometimes I think people forget just how many trolls someone with money can mobilize to disrupt a place like this. Of course, not everyone saw the Obamabot Invasion four and a half years ago. They kept us tied up enough, without having at their disposal a nice computer algebraic they could use to eliminate the best of us.