why the love for mike gravel?

[Alawn]

Gravel sucks really bad. Being better than Hillary doesn't make him great. He is way way way too socialist and would have the government run way to much of our lives.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Well, at least he's not Wayne Root.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I would love for the Libertarian Party to become a "big tent" with people that believe in fiscal responsibility, and social tolerance. That would be great. Just as long as the corporate interests don't take over!

 

[justatrey]

Well, Obama and Hillary are not war mongers. So why not throw some of the Gravel love to them? And in case you are not aware, there is something called a moral war i.e. a war fought to overthrow haughty tyrants and cruel oppressors. Old Testament has lots of such stories. Indeed, a 'pre-emptive' war can be a moral war.

Hillary voted for the Iraq War Resolution. Obama consistently votes to fund it and even wants more troops sent to Afghanistan! They are both warmongers imo.

They are saying what they know is popular at the moment - "bring the troops home". They are on the same level as McCain in my book and I don't believe for one second that either of them will stop the killing when faced with pressure from the powerful interests who are profiting from it..

I have heard of the phrase "moral war" but I can't take you seriously anymore if you are implying that Iraq qualifies.

 

[garrettwombat]

the liberal message caters no freedom...

when you take from one person and give to another... you have destroyed the freedoms of both those men and assumed government control over them as well.

 

[notcarljung]

I wouldn't say Hillary and Obama warmongers, but they're certainly interventionists. They like the "less carrots, more sticks" approach John Bolton drunkenly screams about on Sunday talk shows.

Well, at least he's not Wayne Root.

there's something we can all agree on!

 

[PennCustom4RP]

It seems to me, that Barr or Gravel, or whomever some of us are willing to throw our support at, have positions on issues that are not in line with the issues that Ron Paul held.
Gravel and Kucinich are socialists, but they are 'good' socialists? Mccain is a Warmonger, but so is Obama and Clinton...but not as bad?
So which is it? If Voting for the lesser of two evils is still evil...or have we split it into degrees of evil now?...2 evils, or 3 or 4 or 5...When does this compromise end, and these are no longer evil?

Just a thought....

 

[Luft97]

I wanted Ron to make it to President. As it is now I don't see it happening unless we can pull off some miracle at the RNC. I like Gravel and while I don't agree with everything that he has to say, I can agree we need to stop policing the world and keep the USA a soveriegn nation. If he gets the nomination I will vote for him if Ron is not on the ticket.

Not that I think he will win but I know alot of you are optimists about the future, I am not. I think this is the last time we will be able to peacefully change the country. Maybe I am wrong, you never know.

 

[familydog]

Compromising is ok, as long as it's outside the two party system. The lesser if two evils is evil only when it applies to Republicans and Democrats. Come on people!

 

[PennCustom4RP]

Compromising is ok, as long as it's outside the two party system. The lesser if two evils is evil only when it applies to Republicans and Democrats. Come on people!

Ok I guess its all good once they change their party affiliation. Oh shit, I registered GOP to vote for RP...I'm amongst the Evil...better switch back.

 

[Gadsden Flag]

Are there any other members of the Libertarian party who used to be in the US Senate? I know there are some congress members, but I'm not sure about senate.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Are there any other members of the Libertarian party who used to be in the US Senate? I know there are some congress members, but I'm not sure about senate.

Don't think so.