Why Ron Paul should run for president for the Libertarian Party

[MN Patriot]

I held the office of vice-chair of the lalp once upon a time. a member of their central committee for a decade.
ron paul did more for the liberty movement in his two years running as a gop presidential candidate, than we did in the lp over our lifetime.
he was in the debates. we weren't.
if you don't see that he is right in his path, no reason/logic will reach you.

Ross Perot was in the debates as a third party candidate.

Ron has done well, I give him lots of credit. But there will come a point when libertarians will have to decide if they really want to trudge along with conservatives in the Republican Party.

Please explain the reason/logic of libertarians trying to co-opt the Republican Party.

 

[Aldanga]

So why are you a registered member of the LP, if you think third parties are a dumb idea?

I am a registered member of the LP because I got sick to my stomach when I thought about my registration in the GOP. It was also a symbolic move when the LP candidate for governor was trying to get the LP full party status in my state.

This system is built for two parties, and I don't expect that to change anytime soon. Either play the game or go home. Hoping and wishing that you will convince enough people to vote third party is ridiculous.

 

[AdamT]

Note the video I'm posting tomorrow. Panel Discussion.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=F4DE6D99CEBD778E

 

[torchbearer]

Ross Perot was in the debates as a third party candidate.

Ron has done well, I give him lots of credit. But there will come a point when libertarians will have to decide if they really want to trudge along with conservatives in the Republican Party.

Please explain the reason/logic of libertarians trying to co-opt the Republican Party.

libertarians came from the gop. they left during nixons big government/fake money administration.
a group of guys who had given up on the gop.
but not all libertarians left the gop. the party is as much the abolitionist party as it is the neocons party.
we are taking the ship back.

 

[MikeStanart]

This is the second time I felt like I needed to post this today:

 

[MN Patriot]

Have you been following the events since 2008? Ron Paul was a no-name Texas Congressman in 2007. This year he is the leader of a grassroots movement.

Yes, and I contend he should take that grassroots movement and create a third party that will eventually put the Republican Party out of business. Give the voters an honest choice instead of the phony two party system we have now.

 

[JohnGalt1225]

No, I don't like it. Too me it would only serve to make him look more "fringe." He can run and hopefully get the GOP nomination, if that doesn't work out he can spend his time endorsing liberty candidates.

 

[low preference guy]

Give the voters an honest choice instead of the phony two party system we have now.

The voters have an honest choice because Ron Paul is on the ballot. Everything else you say is bullshit.

 

[MN Patriot]

Why don't you facepalmers man up and put out some REAL arguments.

I know them already. 3rd partys = fale. No medea. Sore looser laws.

Why wouldn't Ron Paul as a Libertarian candidate WHO WOULD GUARANTEED TO BE ON THE BALLOT NATIONWIDE, with a full slate of Libertarian congressional candidates, plus state candidates, promote his ideas more effectively than ONE 76 YEAR OLD MAN WHO WILL FAIL TO RECEIVE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION?

 

[mport1]

Running as a lone libertarian for the Republican Party is the best way to be marginalized. Ron Paul proved that in 2008.

These guys all proved the best way to be marginalized is to run for the Libertarian Party:

John Hospers
Roger MacBride
Ed Clark
David Bergland
Congressman Ron Paul
Andre Marrou
Harry Browne
Michael Badnarik
Bob Barr

 

[MN Patriot]

The voters have an honest choice because Ron Paul is on the ballot. Everything else you say is bullshit.

Can't ignore me, can you?

Ron Paul WILL NOT BE ON THE BALLOT IN 2012. At least if he runs as a Republican. Revolution over.

 

[Captain America]

When he is asked if he will run third party. He should say "i run to talk about liberty." Just leave it at that.

 

[MN Patriot]

These guys all proved the best way to be marginalized is to run for the Libertarian Party:

John Hospers
Roger MacBride
Ed Clark
David Bergland
Congressman Ron Paul
Andre Marrou
Harry Browne
Michael Badnarik
Bob Barr

And none of them had the national prominence at the time that Ron Paul does now. Once again, past performance is no guarantee of future results.

 

[torchbearer]

Can't ignore me, can you?

Ron Paul WILL NOT BE ON THE BALLOT IN 2012. At least if he runs as a Republican. Revolution over.

He was on the ballot in my state in 2008. but we figured out how to do it, and we got it done.

 

[MN Patriot]

No, I don't like it. Too me it would only serve to make him look more "fringe." He can run and hopefully get the GOP nomination, if that doesn't work out he can spend his time endorsing liberty candidates.

10 years ago "libertarian" was fringe. Now John Stossel, Glen Beck, and a bunch of prominent people call themselves libertarian.

All of those libertarians would likely endorse Ron Paul.

 

[cindy25]

running a libertarian candidate in every district is a good idea, and they could run in Rep and Dem primaries also.

Peter King should face a primary, so should Sensenbrenner. in some states such as NY one can have more than one ballot line, so why couldn't RP seek both the GOP and Libertarian nominations?

 

[MN Patriot]

He was on the ballot in my state in 2008. but we figured out how to do it, and we got it done.

Explain. As a Republican in the general election?

This isn't about just getting Ron on the ballot, this is about starting a genuine REVOLUTION, man. Ron is 76 years old, what will we do in 2014? Stay with the same lame Republican Party?

 

[MN Patriot]

running a libertarian candidate in every district is a good idea, and they could run in Rep and Dem primaries also.

Peter King should face a primary, so should Sensenbrenner. in some states such as NY one can have more than one ballot line, so why couldn't RP seek both the GOP and Libertarian nominations?

Each state is different, so they should decide how to maximize their political advantage.

 

[mport1]

There is the other reason not to do this is that the Libertarian Party is no longer libertarian. It has been taken over by Republicans.

 

[mport1]

Can't ignore me, can you?

Ron Paul WILL NOT BE ON THE BALLOT IN 2012. At least if he runs as a Republican. Revolution over.

The revolution will not be over. Liberty does not ride solely on Ron Paul. I think there is likely zero chance he will win under any circumstance. However, that is not what is important. The most important thing is changing hearts and minds about the message of liberty. Winning elections will do nothing if the people still want big government and don't understand liberty.