That's exactly what courts are SUPPOSED to do , balance power. You're not against court decisions, you're against them when they're against you. What about when legislators passed a gay marriage bill and Arnold vetoed it? It's all about balance and checking!
How would you like it if people voted FOR gay marriage AND the courts confirmed it, AND the legislators approved it? You'd be crying tyranny, what matters to you is not the process, it's the result!
Josh, you are as impossible to have a conversation with on this subject, as it is to have with Christian evangelicals when I try to point out that our Constitution and freedom of religion should protect gay rights. I am not saying gay marriage should be illegal. I'm saying that the current trend to embrace it here is fascist in the opposite direction....have we learned nothing?
Under our Constitution I have no problem with gay marriage if it doesn't usurp religious freedom. Unfortunately what is being pushed right now does.
"Gays and atheists have suffered enough of Christian PC BS for 200 years, it's about time we get to say "if you don't like fag fitlhy California, GET THE FUCK OUT"
Wow, again, that is not what I believe or am saying. Little hostile aren't we? If the people of CA vote no, that is another matter. But the people didn't vote no in 2000. If the tide has turned, then yes for those living here as CA residents...that is their choice to leave. However, what about those of us who do not have a choice to leave? I still then have a problem with then being labeled a "hater" for following the Bible when teaching my children from it. Again, I teach them G-d says not to commit the act...along with a lot of other things we aren't supposed to do. I do not say G-d hates them, and definitely make it clear we are to love our fellow man. BTW, I do not have a choice currently to "get out" of CA if I were to be persecuted on this matter....my husband is fighting for your freedom of speech to hurl hostile words at me. If my husband has to serve to protect that freedom, then perhaps at least states that pass sweeping legislation to impose their view on the public could allow military members and their children to go by their home state rules....I simply will make sure our domicile is with a state that protects our freedom to teach (that doesn't necessarily mean it will be a state that trounces on gays freedom either).
"Don't blame God, just admit YOU (not you, but those who say God) hate gays, and there's nothing wrong with that, how cowardly for men to hide behind God to speak their own mine."
Hey, I didn't say G-d hated gays. He doesn't. I don't. I'm not saying there aren't Christians that do and spout off wrongly. Heck, I'm sure there are atheists, agnostics, and other religions that do. I'm sure in reverse there are gays who hate anyone that are not gay or do not wholly support and jump up and down for their cause. Please don't lump all that believe the Bible at it's word as people who hate gays. If we could come together on this issue more we could move ahead in on our country on other freedoms.
The Bible, G-d's Word, makes it clear that the act is not in his will. Never says he hates the person. BTW, I didn't write this....G-d did through Moses, so take it up with one of them.
Vayikra (Leviticus) 18:22 "You are not to go to bed with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination."
BTW, before that it goes into a lot of other things we are not to do...have sex with a close relative, your mother, your father, stepparents, siblings, grandchildren, neighbors wife, during time of niddah (menstruation...betting a lot of "Christians" don't follow that either),...etc. Verses 6-21 go into detail on all these things. Right after verse 22 it says not to have sexual relations with any animal and thus become unclean with it. It says in Vayikra (Leviticus) 18:29-30 "For those who engage in any of these disgusting practices, whoever they may be, will be cut off from their people. So keep my charge not to follow any of these abominable customs that others before you have followed and thus defile yourselves by doing them. I am Adonai your God."
Again, I didn't write the words, they are in the Bible, G-d gave them to Moses. Take it up with Him. It also says in Vayikra (Leviticus) 19:17-19 "Do not hate your brother in your heart, but rebuke your neighbor frankly, so that you won't carry sin because of him. Don't take vengeance on or bear a grudge against any of your people; rather, love your neighbor as yourself; I am Adonai. Observe my regulations".
This would mean that people who do hate those who are not following the words written in the Bible are also committing a sin. G-d despises the acts He has forbidden, not the people. King David committed adultery...G-d dealt with him for his sin...King David later repented, but there were still consequences. G-d didn't hate him....he loved him still. But never did G-d change His mind and teach what David did was okay, or now good to go...
I simply am arguing that CA is making this a no-win situation right now. Those on the so-called left are hostile that gay marriage is not accepted on all levels...from government, to school, to religious institutions and home. Those on the so-called right do not want to acknowledge that not everyone acknowledges there is a G-d, much less then of course follow his words.
Can't we all just get along? Why can't we protect both gay's rights to follow what they want (and those who are Christians...leave it up to G-d to deal with accordingly)....and also protect free speech and the right to teach our children from G-d's word. If that means some mention in public schools, fine, but to then encroach into private schools, places of worship and homes is unconstitutional.
As for schools and this issue, children ultimately will have the choice to follow or not when they are adults. In the meantime, children really should not be exploring heterosexual, homosexual or any type of sexual relationship till they are adults anyway....when they are more emotionally ready. They should concentrate on being children, the three rs (along with history, science, art, music, etc), and learning to be productive (age appropriate chores, or later jobs) & fiscally responsible.
When those who are practicing alternate lifestyles come up with legislation that protects their freedom here (which again, is fine, they will have to answer to G-d, not man) as well as religious & parental freedoms, I'll gladly sign on board.
Unfortunately, that will never come. The majority are not learning from history. The pendulum swings one way, then the other. They haven't done that yet and therefore are just going to start a new wave of persecution in the opposite direction. One would think maybe the gay community would have a little more empathy for this concept. However I guess getting sweeping "revenge" on those who simply utilize the same book as others that spew hate is okay.
I'd hope a supposed fellow RP supporter could see the brainwashing on both sides of the argument. You clearly see the problems on the so-called social "right", but still can't yet see equal problems on the "left"? This, like many other issues in this country (abortion, military, etc), is not a matter of either the "left" or "right" being correct. The answer is somewhere in the middle. This is just another way to keep us all enslaved. Give one side "power" over the other for a little while to make them feel like they have control....back and forth (like the two major parties switching back and forth for decades)...when in fact none of us really has freedom...most are too distracted and bickering to see the truth...at this rate we the people will never overcome oppression and get back to our Constitution.
We can't stop being fascist because Woodrow Wilson ensured that fascism should be the American way, and noone challenged him properly. 
