Why is Ron Paul still only at 5%????

[Join The Paul Side]

Anybody else here think the MSM will show Ron only getting 5% in his home state of Texas?

 

[pacelli]

And if you are 54 I can only think that your critical thinking skills and your frontal cortex area are underdeveloped.

Look Shaun, I understand that you are upset and are basically spewing venom at anything and anyone that strikes your fancy, but personally attacking someone based on their age is not going to help bring the forum together and doesn't advance the intellectual sophistication of your argument.

 

[Ball]

A McCain nomination will only weaken the party, making it easier to take over, split up, or kill off.

Getting delegates, regardless if they're bound to McLame, will help.

What we really need long term is a non-partisan small government caucus that can take advantage of these scenarios.

 

[Bubba]

Stop screaming voter fraud. If the majority of America decided that Ron Paul should be the nominee, there's no way that Diebold could even edit that large number of votes down to 5%. It pisses me off how voter fraud, something so serious of a claim, be thrown around like fact. It isn't fact. There's no evidence other than a few counties that counted votes wrong. Remember NH recounts? Did our percentage point jump 20 points? No.

This is turnip truck talk. McWar has RP's numbers. It only takes one line of computer code to do this and about 15 seconds to slip the disk into the hard-drive to set it up. There was a Congressional Hearing on this. Google.

 

[Bossobass]

You claimed we got 15-20% in New Hampshire?
That is TOTAL AND UTTER BS. And if you are 54 I can only think that your critical thinking skills and your frontal cortex area are underdeveloped.
Why is EVERYTHING a conspiracy against Ron, EVEN WHEN RON HIMSELF SAY'S IT ISN'T!!!
Which he did regarding NH and other states.
Oh, that's right, he's "rigged" as well huh?
Everything is fixed or a conspiracy.
I have had enough.
We lost because RON WAS NOT PREPARED TO FIRE THE LOSERS AT HQ and bring in a world class PR and executive team. Even then we may not have won, but we would have had more chance...

Yeah, and flouride prevents cavities.

How many trips to NH did you make last year? How much internal polling did you have access to? How many private conversations have you had with Ron Paul on these subjects?

Please don't tell me what Ron Paul thinks, stop offering your ill-informed opinion as an arm chair pundit as though it's fact and most definitely, stop condescending to me from a position of utter ignorance.

From the middle of November:

Zogby Predicts Ron Paul Could Get 15 to 18 Percent in New Hampshire
On the Sean Hannity radio program, pollster John Zogby said that Texas Congressman Ron Paul could end up surprising the field - and "embarass a lot of the frontrunners" by wildly exceeding expectations taking 15 to 18 percent in the New Hampshire primary.

You should have e-mailed John and told him what an idiot conspiracy theorist he is. Hey, but we all know John Zogby is famous for being off by 10-15 points in his predictions.

nvestigative reporter Greg Palast says 4.5 million votes will be shoplifted in 2008, thanks largely to the “Rove-bots” that have been placed in the Justice Department following the U.S. Attorney firings. Being the guy who uncovered the voter “purge lists” of 2000 that disenfranchised black voters, he’s worth listening to, even if the mainstream press chooses not to.

Karl Rove’s lackeys totally screwed up when they were sending emails about firing US Attorneys for not being Republican Party and Karl Rove friendly. It seems that instead of sending the emails they typed up to georgewbush.com they sent it to georgewbush.org which is a domain that friends of Greg Palast’s own. Greg Palast now has 500 of the Karl Rove emails. What was revealed in the emails reviewed by RFK Jr. had him saying (paraphrasing) that “Rove et al should be in jail, not in office.”

These are the emails subpoenaed by Congress but supposedly “lost” by Rove’s office. Palast obtained 500 of these, fifty with ‘caging’ lists attached.

‘Caging’ lists are “absolutely illegal” under the Voting Rights Act, noted Kennedy on his Air America program, Ring of Fire. The 1965 law makes it a felony crime to challenge voters when race is a factor in the targeting. African-American voters comprised the bulk of the 70,000 voters ‘caged’ in a single state, Florida.

Caging works like this. Hundreds of thousands of Black and Hispanic voters were sent letters — do not forward. Letters returned as undeliverable (“caged”) were used as evidence the voter didn’t live at their registered address. The GOP goons challenged these voters’ right to cast ballots — and their votes were lost.

Yeah, that tin foil hat wearing guy Palast really has no evidence and he sure is a conspiracy theory nutjob, along with that idiot law professor Bobby Kennedy Jr., who wrote:

Like many Americans, I spent the evening of the 2004 election watching the returns on television and wondering how the exit polls, which predicted an overwhelming victory for John Kerry, had gotten it so wrong. By midnight, the official tallies showed a decisive lead for George Bush - and the next day, lacking enough legal evidence to contest the results, Kerry conceded. Republicans derided anyone who expressed doubts about Bush's victory as nut cases in "tinfoil hats," while the national media, with few exceptions, did little to question the validity of the election. The Washington Post immediately dismissed allegations of fraud as "conspiracy theories," and The New York Times declared that "there is no evidence of vote theft or errors on a large scale."

But despite the media blackout, indications continued to emerge that something deeply troubling had taken place in 2004. Nearly half of the 6 million American voters living abroad never received their ballots - or received them too late to vote - after the Pentagon unaccountably shut down a state-of-the-art Web site used to file overseas registrations. A consulting firm called Sproul & Associates, which was hired by the Republican National Committee to register voters in six battleground states, was discovered shredding Democratic registrations. In New Mexico, which was decided by 5,988 votes, malfunctioning machines mysteriously failed to properly register a presidential vote on more than 20,000 ballots. Nationwide, according to the federal commission charged with implementing election reforms, as many as 1 million ballots were spoiled by faulty voting equipment - roughly one for every 100 cast.

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/61/20209

Yeah, US elections have no history of fraud, and if they did, it certainly disappeared in the 2008 primaries. Right. It was that loser campaign staff and Ron Paul. They squandered all that money because they're incompetent and didn't want to actually win the election, and they didn't call Neil Boortz back for that pivotal interview that would have thwarted the GOP, and the media were all dying to plaster RP on the front cover of every outlet they control, but the campaign incompetents refused the offers.

Like LordX said earlier in this thread, I give a shit what you think, and it would be enormously helpful if you and your ilk provided any facts at all in your proclamations from on up high when besmirching people who I know personally who have worked tirelessly to win this primary.

For those of us who know better...MUCH better...all of the lame, baseless posts like yours are insulting piles of dung. I'm sick of reading them.

Bosso

 

[Bubba]

I like this. Let's put this voter fraud issue to bed and determine the truth.

That's an Oxy. Moron.

 

[JMann]

Stop screaming voter fraud. If the majority of America decided that Ron Paul should be the nominee, there's no way that Diebold could even edit that large number of votes down to 5%. It pisses me off how voter fraud, something so serious of a claim, be thrown around like fact. It isn't fact. There's no evidence other than a few counties that counted votes wrong. Remember NH recounts? Did our percentage point jump 20 points? No.

Don't even try and reason there are a lot of people so blinded by the message they can't understand why most people are not interest in Paul's message. Easier to scream fraud than admit defeat.

 

[Goldwater Conservative]

"Up next, we talk about the two GOP candidates left..."

"With McCain assured the nomination, why is Huckabee, his only remaining rival, still in this?"

Repeat 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. A mention here or there on Wolf Blitzer can't counteract what the media has chosen to be the truth. They won't even let a candidate who continues to get over 40% of the vote with a dozen or more states still left in the voting be treated as a legitimate contender. Could it be more obvious?

 

[RonRules]

Most people just want to "WIN" their elections. Seriously, it's the same as the "He can't win" people. They will pick one guy in favor of another one just because he's 42% vs 38% in the polls.

Why do you think Giuliani lost? Because he did bad on the early states. An EXTREMELY stupid strategy on his part. Huck did well because of his initial boost in Iowa.

If a huge snow storm would have it NH. Ron Paul would have gotten around 20-25% of the vote and probably would be in much better shape now.

It's too late. Please concentrate on changing Congress and helping Ron Paul win his seat in Texas.

 

[affa]

People still think there is no conspiracy.

You guys are either blind or paid per post.

 

[xRedfoxx]

Again, with the mass media refusing to cover Dr. Paul, we are all but screwed. A lesson that many of us have learned over the past several months. What can we do?
1. Stay connected now that we're united, through a common web page.
2. Merge our purchasing power and start a new network.
3. Get involved with politics and work our way into offices around the nation.
4. Continue to build support by education

 

[WRellim]

Wait a second.. I thought Ron Paul dropped out?

He did. He's just letting you down easy by telling you he still wants to be friends.

 

[WRellim]

Because Jesse Benton doesn't know how to manage a pee wee baseball team much less a presidential campaign.

snort.

Dnow I haf coffeee in my dose.

 

[syborius]

Don't even try and reason there are a lot of people so blinded by the message they can't understand why most people are not interest in Paul's message. Easier to scream fraud than admit defeat.

Why don't you do some analysis of this
http://checkthevotes.com/primary_dem_New_Hampshire-summary

and then get back to me later, including an explanation on how accurate the exit polls are, as that is one of the counter arguments against voter fraud.

When you are done with that, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Qb3ZfyztE

After you have watched that watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM
and if you are still a believer in the voting system, go to:
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

If you are still not convinced fraud exists, and these elections can easily be stolen, listen to the testimony of a programmer that was asked to program a machine to give different results, or flip the vote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ecdkCVD7mM

If you honestly watch all this, and still claim I am insane, or people that are sounding the red flag on election fraud as conspiracy theorists you are either a shill, paid by the post, or just ignorant and rather keep your head in the sand than actually confront reality.

 

[syborius]

Don't even try and reason there are a lot of people so blinded by the message they can't understand why most people are not interest in Paul's message. Easier to scream fraud than admit defeat.

Listen to RP in his own words "I've lost elections in the past because of fraud"

http://www.aunetwork.tv/files/audio/Ron_Paul_on_Washington_Oregon_Call_2_15_08.mp3

It is easier for the neocons to commit election fraud than win on the merits!

 

[phree]

In relation to voter fraud.

Well, take a good look into NH.

That would have been a HUGE springboard for the freedom message. The powers that be pulled some strings and you got the results you seen.

IF YOU DO NOT THINK there was significant shenanigans in NH, then you are living in an alternate reality.

Unattended, open boxes - two sketchy guys transporting the paper ballots. The diebold cards unaccounted for and "not to be seen.".

NH was a major Ron Paul screw job. They knew that if he pulled first or second there, the momentum would have been HUGE! They did what they do, and pulled shenanigans. I mean, JUST LOOK AT LA, for goodness sakes!

I volunteered in NH for two weeks through the primary. The NH residents thought we sucked and they voted accordingly. Of course the MSM is the primary cause, but for all of our effort we didn't help at all. I was a poll watcher in a small town and I knew we tanked before the votes were counted.

 

[Bubba]

Freedom of the Press died a long time ago.

 

[Magicman]

Again, with the mass media refusing to cover Dr. Paul, we are all but screwed. A lesson that many of us have learned over the past several months. What can we do?
1. Stay connected now that we're united, through a common web page.
2. Merge our purchasing power and start a new network.
3. Get involved with politics and work our way into offices around the nation.
4. Continue to build support by education

If you notice Ron Paul had to bust his ass 1000 times harder then Obama, Mccain or Hillary.

He had to SHOW UP for EVERY interview which isn't possible. The majority of the other candidates get snippets put in 24/7 by the media because they are CFR entitlements. They wouldn't get attacked or asked questions by news sources they would have political pundits come in to make more news for their inconsiquential news segment.

Basically, the MSM job is to put it in people's faces obnoxiously to the point where it's a household name.

The fact that Ron Paul isn't apart of the media's clique or the fact that his policies aren't sucking up to their agendas makes him blacklisted.

Anybody who says the CFR has nothing to do with this doesn't have a clue about our infrastructure. Most news media has CFR representatives and presidents are members of the major media organizations.

Anyone that thinks voter fraud didn't come into play also is completely missing the fact that MOST votes are handled by privitized firms with no transparency. If they didnt have something to hide then why do they continue to do this. Trace the type of people who have access to this info lie in NH where they hired people who did illegal coke trafficking in their past.

I mean cmon, you have to be a fool to think that voter fraud didn't play into this. Im not saying that would make Ron Paul ahead but it also was used in an efficient way to pull ahead some top tier candidates like Hillary in line with Obama and also used for Paul to make him seem inconsiquential and in the schematics of things have consistently a dry base while keeping Mccain's numbers at a steady rate in order to keep an illusion of who is winning and who isn't.

If there wasnt fraud or thisw line of thinking the why did Paul have no successes recorded even when he did well in Nevada in ANY newspapers because the Associated Press disregarded him completely.

They want to create the illusion of only THEIR HANDPICKED candidates doing well.

 

[j650]

He's still only at 5% because libertarian views aren't accepted by a wide number of people.

 

[Magicman]

I volunteered in NH for two weeks through the primary. The NH residents thought we sucked and they voted accordingly. Of course the MSM is the primary cause, but for all of our effort we didn't help at all. I was a poll watcher in a small town and I knew we tanked before the votes were counted.

Funny how noone even knew who Huckabee was until he announced his advisor who was the leader of the CFR and then he got large numbers. They constantly aired him all the time on the media as the 'underdog'.

You have to realize that your watching theatre not a real election.