Why I will support Nader/Gonzalez.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Best of all, the kooks won't be calling us NWO trolls for supporting Nader!

I always knew you were a socialist. Thanks for affirming it.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I'm now a Naderite.

and a disgrace to libertarianism. I, alongside TruthWarrior, will be abstaining from the statist political system.

Now I have the moral high chair over all of you

 

[Captain America]

From Naders website:

The Nader campaign advocates immediately increasing the minimum wage to $8 per hour, from its current $5.25 per hour. Two years after that increase, we advocate a $10 per hour living wage.

The privacy of employees need to be protected, e.g. the monitoring of employee email.

A pension plan should be included for employees and pensions for current employees and retirees should not be allowed to be reduced unilaterally.

Access to health care and unilateral reductions in medical benefits should not be allowed.

The pernicious dominant employment law of employment at will that allows for an employee to be fired for any reason, no reason or a bad reason needs to be replaced with an employee's bill of rights.

NOW supports public programs to provide early childhood development as well as quality child care to meet the needs of children of all ages and their parents of all economic backgrounds

[Homemakers' Rights: NOW actively supports full rights for homemakers and recognition of the economic value of the vital services they perform for family and society. We also support legislation and programs reflecting the reality of marriage as an equal economic partnership.
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Adopt a carbon pollution tax

Adopt a Wall Street securities speculation tax

Adopt single payer national health insurance

No to nuclear power, solar energy first



NONE of these issues does Ron Paul support. Not a single one. Nor do I. Naders answer is government regulation and force. This is the wrong approach.

all but two of these scare the shit out of me. but if anyone will dismantle the Fed and stop the empire, and give back our rightful liberties I have no problem voting for him if he makes high percentages for ballot access to these parties. What we need to ask him is if he will support a Jesse Ventura or Ron Paul in 2012 if we vote for him. So one, two, or all three could be part of the 2012 debates.

 

[matratzac]

some of you guys are being real jerks
if someone wants to vote for nader i cant believe they get returned with "you socialist! die, socialist! go to hell!"

its ridiculous. do you realize how hippocritical that is? U can disagree with 60% but u also agree with 40% and that 40% is what should matter because those are the huge issues! u don't realize that nader is the only change we have to get a good indy run in 2012 from someone else because hes the only 3rd party that can get over 5% in general... is it that hard to understand?

 

[Clasby440]

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[JosephTheLibertarian]

all but two of these scare the shit out of me. but if anyone will dismantle the Fed and stop the empire, and give back our rightful liberties I have no problem voting for him if he makes high percentages for ballot access to these parties. What we need to ask him is if he will support a Jesse Ventura or Ron Paul in 2012 if we vote for him. So one, two, or all three could be part of the 2012 debates.

Have fun voting for evil.

 

[matratzac]

Have fun voting for evil.

i dont think hes evil, i think he has good intentions, stands by what he thinks, doesn't lie to people, and goes against the status quo. u guys are so picky, u expect everyone to be like ron paul, well its not going to happen sorry to say

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

i dont think hes evil, i think he has good intentions, stands by what he thinks, doesn't lie to people, and goes against the status quo. u guys are so picky, u expect everyone to be like ron paul, well its not going to happen sorry to say

The state is evil.

 

[matratzac]

The state is evil.

and you are judgemental, but so what?

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

and you are judgemental, but so what?

No, what I say is true. You validate the state when you vote for it. Have fun

 

[matratzac]

No, what I say is true. You validate the state when you vote for it. Have fun

won't exactly matter, im not voting for nader im voting nader for someone else to run in 2012. indy needs as many votes as possible to get attention

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

won't exactly matter, im not voting for nader im voting nader for someone else to run in 2012. indy needs as many votes as possible to get attention

hmm. ok then. Well, atleast you're not a shill for either of those guys. It's good to think outside the box. Even if I were voting...

Nader: socialist

Baldwin: religious nut - ever read the CP platform

I wouldn't be able to.

 

[matratzac]

hmm. ok then. Well, atleast you're not a shill for either of those guys. It's good to think outside the box. Even if I were voting...

Nader: socialist

Baldwin: religious nut - ever read the CP platform

I wouldn't be able to.

sometimes its about strategy bro. u wanna end the 2 party system this is the only way right now

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

sometimes its about strategy bro. u wanna end the 2 party system this is the only way right now

Nader can't win.

Baldwin can't win.

 

[AutoDas]

i dont think hes evil, i think he has good intentions, stands by what he thinks, doesn't lie to people, and goes against the status quo. u guys are so picky, u expect everyone to be like ron paul, well its not going to happen sorry to say

The socialized roads are paved with good intentions. Too bad they kill 40,000 Americans every year.

 

[matratzac]

Nader can't win.

Baldwin can't win.

lol thats not the point. but let me say DUH.

what i mean is if nader (he will get the highest % of any 3rd party, we all know that) gets atleast 5% in the general election, the independent party will be eligible for federal funding come the 2012 election. nader wont be running in 2012, maybe jesse ventura will, and, if they decide to use that money (i think they should) then they might be able to do very well.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

lol thats not the point. but let me say DUH.

what i mean is if nader (he will get the highest % of any 3rd party, we all know that) gets atleast 5% in the general election, the independent party will be eligible for federal funding come the 2012 election. nader wont be running in 2012, maybe jesse ventura will, and, if they decide to use that money (i think they should) then they might be able to do very well.

and you just told me that you aren't voting Nader are you telling a fib?

 

[matratzac]

and you just told me that you aren't voting Nader are you telling a fib?

im not voting for nader im voting for 2012. 2012 just happens to be after nader and nader is the only way to get to 2012

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

im not voting for nader im voting for 2012. 2012 just happens to be after nader and nader is the only way to get to 2012

"and nader is the only way to get to 2012"

sheesh. If you want to vote for evil, atleast vote for the least of all of them. Nader wants: tax hikes, increase government, protectionism, more affirmative action, racist programs, subsidies, universal healthcare, and more, and so I am led to believe that you support all of this? hm

 

[matratzac]

"and nader is the only way to get to 2012"

sheesh. If you want to vote for evil, atleast vote for the least of all of them. Nader wants: tax hikes, increase government, protectionism, more affirmative action, racist programs, subsidies, universal healthcare, and more, and so I am led to believe that you support all of this? hm

im not thinking about him man im thinking about trying to get as many votes for an independent so they can have a chance in 2012 with someone else... is it that hard to understand