Why does Ron hate the Dept. of Education so much?

[jsgolfman]

10th amendment.

You could have stopped the thread right after this post.

 

[RockEnds]

Because the Department of Education is the root of the trouble. Its purpose is not education, but the dissemination of propaganda and the training of a national labor force.

 

[ladyliberty]

Forced integration, maybe?

I know that's a state's rights issue that Ron Paul has backed for a long time.

This has NOTHING to do with it! Read this:

Ron Paul: Federal Education Morass

Summary:

After more than 40 years of massive federal education spending, the inescapable conclusion is that federal control is failing. By any objective standards, our public schools are worse than ever. Policies regarding curricula and discipline, once set by local teachers and principals working closely with parents, are now established in Washington. I believe that parents and teachers know what is best for their schools at the local level. The key to reforming public education in America is returning local control back to our public schools.


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by Ron Paul, Dr. May 28, 2001

After more than 40 years of massive federal education spending, the inescapable conclusion is that federal control is failing. By any objective standards, our public schools are worse than ever. Policies regarding curricula and discipline, once set by local teachers and principals working closely with parents, are now established in Washington.

Politically correct sensitivity training substitutes for rigorous coursework in liberal arts or practical vocations. Children learn phony self-esteem, rather than the importance of productive achievement. Teachers are prohibited from maintaining discipline. As a result, our high school graduates enter adulthood less educated and less prepared for responsibility than previous generations. Obviously, ever-increasing federal control over our schools has failed the nation's children and lowered educational standards.

Yet while the need for new policies in Washington has never been greater, the approach unfortunately remains the same: more federal spending and more federal control. Last week Congress passed legislation that massively increases funding for failed Education department programs. Although the bill was widely hailed as bipartisan, the truth is that it contained mostly liberal measures promoted by Democratic members of Congress. Key Republican provisions such as school vouchers and unconditional flexibility for local school districts were not included. Regardless of the party stamp, the bill clearly represents a big-spending, big government plan that will only serve to further entrench the wasteful federal education monopoly.

The bill increases the Education department budget by a whopping 22 percent- more than even the liberals had hoped. The $9.2 billion increase brings the total department budget to more than $50 billion. No one mentions the high tax rates we all pay to finance this spending. We must remember that every dollar parents send to Washington is a dollar they don't have to spend directly on their children's education. Most education tax dollars sent to Washington fund the federal bureaucracy; far less than half of each dollar is ever returned to local schools. More importantly, federal school dollars come with strings attached. The more money we give to education bureaucrats, the more power they have to dictate how local schools are run. When federal spending increases, local schools are forced to do whatever it takes to get their share, even if this means adopting one size fits all policies mandated in Washington. In other words, federal money is used as a club to force schools to surrender more and more of their decision making authority to Washington.

I believe that parents and teachers know what is best for their schools at the local level. The key to reforming public education in America is returning local control back to our public schools. I have introduced three education tax credit bills which keep more tax dollars and more decision making power at the local level. The first provides parents with a $3,000 per child credit for educational expenses, including tuition, books, computers, and tutors. The second allows parents or individuals to claim up to $3,000 in tax credits for cash or in-kind donations to schools and scholarship programs. The third bill grants all teachers a $1,000 tax credit, effectively raising their salaries without spending tax dollars. All three of these measures share the same goal of insuring that parents, rather than federal education bureaucrats, decide how their children are educated.

Congress never seems to learn that Washington does not know what is best for kids. While both parties claim to stand for education, their bureaucratic approach should no longer be tolerated by American education consumers. American parents will spend generously on their children's education, but Congress must be willing to lower tax burdens and ease the federal stranglehold on education that has destroyed our public schools.

 

[sands]

Because the fedeal gov. can mandate what is taught in schools...Basically what's going on now is teaching globalist gov. philosophies and socialism...

 

[LibertyEagle]

Hey ladyliberty.... long time, no see. We missed ya.

 

[shooter_tx]

It's a huge bureaucracy that does absolutely nothing. I think the reason he brings it up so often is that the Dep of Education used to be Enemy #1 with the Republicans a few decaeds ago, and he's trying to appeal to the old time Republicans.

Yes, that is the pragmatic rationale.

The philosophical rationale is that they are an extra-Constitutional Cabinet-level bureacracy which usurps a function that could EASILY be performed by state- and/or local-level agencies.

 

[Carl Corey]

Imagine having to follow an educational course to get your drivers license. Socialist Europe has already beaten the USA to it so here are the requirements: 40 driving lessons of an hour, followed by a theoretical and practical exam.

50 euro for each one hour driving lesson by a certified expert with a special teaching car, times 40 totaling 2000 euro. Theory exam of 100 euro, practical exam of 200 euro, and you're at 2300 euro for your driver's license! Given the exam agencies are strongly connected to the agencies giving the driving lessons it's no big surprise that they manage to fail over 50% of the candidates, which brings in 2300, 4600, or even 7100 euro depending on the budget, skill, and most of all luck, of the people aspiring a drivers license.

Naturally the people buy this crap because they've been led to believe this is the only way to make driving a happy and most of all safe experience for everyone.


Same story for education, students pay massive amounts of money to learn things some bureaucrat thinks they need to perform a certain job.

The task of the government should be to deal with exams and handing out diplomas if someone passes the exam. Whether someone went to Harvard or learned from some 2nd hand books and a little help from his grandpa should be of no concern.

 

[Revolution9]

Simple. Trot out and show one student that the Despot of Edumacation has edumacated.

HTH
Randy

 

[lx43]

I wish he would add a few more departments when he gives speaches.

education, energy, labor, health, labor, transportation, etc

 

[shooter_tx]

Because the Department of Education is the root of the trouble. Its purpose is not education, but the dissemination of propaganda and the training of a national labor force.

That's a lie!

Oh no, wait; you're exactly right.

Especially the last part.

 

[rmholla]

The other reason is that home schooling is becoming more and more popular. Every time there is a big spelling bee or other type of contest it is the home schooled kids walking away with the top prize.


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[airborne373]

It mirrors the communist school system.

 

[Bruno]

its dumbed down america. purposefully and staggeringly.

Dumbing down and at the same time controlling history and what is taught to our children, hence controlling the future as well.

 

[Teenforpaul08]

I think he has to remind people what the negatives of the D. E. is... Most people will just say, "what, he's against education?"

 

[Bold As Love]

Dumbing down and at the same time controlling history and what is taught to our children, hence controlling the future as well.

I concur. As a social studies teacher myself, this drives me CRAZY.

We rightly place a value judgement on slavery, the holocaust, etc...
but the curriculum describes SOCIALISM as a viable alternative form of a mixed economy!

 

[LEK]

It's a huge bureaucracy that does absolutely nothing. I think the reason he brings it up so often is that the Dep of Education used to be Enemy #1 with the Republicans a few decaeds ago, and he's trying to appeal to the old time Republicans.

And the horrific "No Child Left Behind" policy eminates from it. American kids are being dumbed down - taught to think as a group - no individuality.

There is a method to their madness...globilization.

 

[freelance]

Why does Ron Paul hate the Dept. of Education so much?

Try reading a few threads here and it should become abundantly clear.

 

[bluemarkets]

central and government control of education is border-line communist

it was only created less than 30 years ago in 1980 and has over 4,500 employees with an annual budget of $71.5 billion About

just the fact that people wonder "why get rid of the dept/ of education" shows you how conditioned the population is to believing if the government doesnt control it who will??

The people look to government once again for the answer...

government cannot solve the problem government IS the problem

 

[HenryKnoxFineBooks]

PLUS, it used to be on the Republican Platform for many, many years. So, in many ways, its reminding older republicans that he remembers the promisies from long ago, and plans to fulfill them.

 

[Omphfullas Zamboni]

Explanation

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