Why Do Some Libertarians Support Socialism?

[PAF]

Can't keep your strawmen straight???

Just illustrating the hypocrisy you guys exhibit

 

[CaptUSA]

Just illustrating the hypocrisy you guys exhibit

Again, you're constantly trying to loop me in with this group or that. Always a complete strawmen with you. I guess that's easier than providing a scintilla of evidence of your strategy being even remotely effective.

Viable solutions are great. Would that everything which has been sold to me as a viable solution lived up to its hype.

I feel the same about utopian pipe dreams.

 

[PAF]

I feel the same about utopian pipe dreams.

Quite a shame. I doubt that you have an artistic bone in your body [I could be wrong], you'd be good at an assembly plant, doing the same thing over, and over, and over again. Whether government, or private sector, a very good worker-follower you would be.

I won't suggest broadening your horizons, because that is something that can only be felt/done from within.

Most if not all of my dreams have in fact come to fruition, even though I was dirt poor growing up.

 

[TheTexan]

 

[CaptUSA]

Quite a shame. I doubt that you have an artistic bone in your body [I could be wrong], you'd be good at an assembly plant, doing the same thing over, and over, and over again. Whether government, or private sector, a very good worker-follower you would be.

I won't suggest broadening your horizons, because that is something that can only be felt/done from within.

Most if not all of my dreams have in fact come to fruition.

Lol - what the hell are you even talking about? Not only could you be wrong, your assumptions are almost always wrong. (FWIW, I'm a published musician/songwriter.) Dreams are fine if you have a plan and the fortitude to bring them into reality. Otherwise, they are just worthless. (Well, I guess they can give you an inflated sense of self-importance)

I've always maintained that you have to use the unconstrained vision for ideation and the constrained vision for implementation. But you have to know when and where to use the two.

 

[PAF]

Lol - what the hell are you even talking about? Not only could you be wrong, your assumptions are almost always wrong. (FWIW, I'm a published musician/songwriter.) Dreams are fine if you have a plan and the fortitude to bring them into reality. Otherwise, they are just worthless. (Well, I guess they can give you an inflated sense of self-importance)

I've always maintained that you have to use the unconstrained vision for ideation and the constrained vision for implementation. But you have to know when and where to use the two.

Oh yeah? What genre? In all seriousness, I have a resume that would blow your socks off!

 

[CaptUSA]

In all seriousness, I have a resume that would blow your socks off!

Oh... Maybe we're getting somewhere...

Did you take the time to learn how to play an instrument or two and how to write music? And did you actually sit down and create something and record it? Or did you just dream up something in your head and ask other people to appreciate your dream and then get angry at them for not seeing the beauty of your vision?

 

[PAF]

Oh... Maybe we're getting somewhere...

Did you take the time to learn how to play an instrument or two and how to write music? And did you actually sit down and create something and record it? Or did you just dream up something in your head and ask other people to appreciate your dream and then get angry at them for not seeing the beauty of your vision?

You don't just sing songs and play guitar in local bars for your friends, do you? [joking aside, it's still cool if you do ;-) ]

 

[ClaytonB]

losertarians

A needlessly offensive term. I'd rather be a Losertarian than a Repedocan any day of the week. Hornberger's "analysis" here is wackadoodle, but the defense of liberty is the opposite of being a loser, it is real heroism. The real hero defends liberty at all costs, even one's own life. This is a founding value of the United States and those who have lost sight of this are not winners, they are just tyrants, whether Demoncrat tyrans, or Repedocan tyrants.

 

[ClaytonB]

As noted, school vouchers are a step in the right direction. Food stamps (a socialist voucher program) are infinitely superior to full-blown Marxist State ownership of the means of food production. Public schools are Marxist indoctrination camps, full-stop. Allowing parents an easy offramp is an unqualified Pareto improvement. Hornberger is smoking crack or whatever drug is legal in his libertarian corner of the US...

 

[acptulsa]

Allowing parents an easy offramp is an unqualified Pareto improvement.

Oh, there's a qualification there, and it's no small thing. Government money very consistently comes with strings attached. You have to jump through hoops to get it, always. And so, vouchers do strive to turn private schools into indoctrination centers. And to some degree or another, they are succeeding.