Why do people hate Christianity?

[TheTexan]

Because they are conditioned to. The church, the family, and the community all stand in the way of the total state and so, have been under attack for some time. The church is probably the easiest target.

I don't really believe that's a valid point. For much of history, the church was the state.

 

[green73]

I don't really believe that's a valid point. For much of history, the church was the state.

But after the industrial revolution, the elite changed their alliance from priests to professors.

 

[staerker]

Haha I can't help but laugh. You spent more words on the subject than is needed. The only moral code I need is the non aggression principle. The bible has over 1k pages and it doesn't even cover that principle. The golden rule comes close but not close enough.

Matthew 22:

Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

I'd argue that the golden rule IS the non-aggression principle, unless of course one wishes to be attacked.?
I agree with the NAP, and understand why you would:

Romans 5:

For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things contained in the law, these, although, not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them.

Galatians 3:

What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made. . .Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ.

 

[erowe1]

You would get offended if I told you your religion is wrong, and its a waste of time, and that it's all just a bunch of nonsense, yes?

Of course not. It's a given that many people don't believe the same thing I do. It won't bother me to meet one of them as if I'm surprised they exist.

 

[erowe1]

I don't really believe that's a valid point. For much of history, the church was the state.

The state always has some religion connected to it. The conflict is always between the state and any of the other religions. Christianity was born as a movement at odds with the state, and in its purest form it still is.

 

[TheTexan]

Of course not. It's a given that many people don't believe the same thing I do. It won't bother me to meet one of them as if I'm surprised they exist.

Last time I checked, atheists weren't handing out pamphlets at the grocery store telling you that you were going to burn and die in a fire.

There's a time and place to discuss these things. This thread is one of them. But when Christians interrupt daily life with their own beliefs for the single purpose of telling you that you are going to hell, it gets old.

I generally try to avoid having any kind of friendships with highly-religious people, not because of their religion, but because you can't have even a fun conversation about drinking, gambling, or whores, without them injecting some kind of Christian moral superiority. (Never mind that Jesus was probably conceived through prostitution)

I don't get offended by Christians telling me I'm wrong and going to hell. But it does get old, and irritating. And Christians do get offended if you question their faith in a manner they don't like (take TER for example). But they see nothing wrong with questioning my lack of faith in manners I don't like.

 

[TheTexan]

Christianity was born as a movement at odds with the state, and in its purest form it still is.

Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but I don't see any substantial historical evidence to find this to be the case. If anything, the opposite.

Christianity itself even instructs you to be submissive. Submissive to God, submissive to your parents, submissive to your priests (in the case of catholicism), and so on. All of these things can be construed as good things and I wouldn't necessarily disagree, but at the same time this carries over to be submissive in general. Being submissive may or may not be what it teaches, but that's usually the net effect. Submissive behavior. It is definitely possible to be Christian and not be submissive, but I would say that is the exception and not the rule.

Which makes sense, considering that Christianity has been used to control people since its beginning.

 

[acptulsa]

...he thought that Jesus came to give us new exhortations and "show us how to live" and so fourth[sic]. And since "Christians aren't living like Jesus taught everyone to live", he doesn't like these "Christians".

After all He has done for you, you'd think that, on His birthday of all days, you could give the 'what He said with His own mouth doesn't matter' patter a rest.

Ah, well. He forgives you and I shall try to follow that excellent example. Merry Christmas.

Last time I checked, atheists weren't handing out pamphlets at the grocery store telling you that you were going to burn and die in a fire.

They don't need pamphlets. They've got spaghetti monsters flying all over the web. Happy holidays to you.

Christianity itself even instructs you to be submissive. Submissive to God, submissive to your parents, submissive to your priests (in the case of catholicism), and so on.

I would say that I'll kiss the pope's ring right after he kisses my ass. But to do so would be to ignore what I consider to be very sound advice:

"Hunt out and talk about the good that is in the other fellow's church, not the bad, and you will do away with all this religious hatred you hear so much of nowadays."--Will Rogers 1923

So, instead I'll just remind you of the money changers in the temple. Jesus did not turn the other cheek to those, nor to any Pharisees. So, if you ever have the urge to call out some hypocritical Christian somewhere, please do. With Jesus' blessing.

A time to every purpose under heaven. Merry Christmas to you, too, my friend.

 

[Sola_Fide]

After all He has done for you, you'd think that, on His birthday of all days, you could give the 'what He said with His own mouth doesn't matter' patter a rest.

Ah, well. He forgives you and I shall try to follow that excellent example. Merry Christmas.

Whose birthday? And what do you mean by "what He said with His own mouth"?

 

[phill4paul]

Ok. Merry Christmas, Sola. To you and yours. Peace.

Just wondering. Is this response worthy of some sort of acceptance?

 

[acptulsa]

Whose birthday? And what do you mean by "what He said with His own mouth"?

Sola, I love you and forgive you. I wish you a merry Christmas. And I wish you would shut the #@%& up long enough to read the post (including your quote contained therein).

Just wondering. Is this response worthy of some sort of acceptance?

Your gracious blessing is worth the world. I'd take it over thirteen dozen helpings of dogma. Merry Christmas to you, and thanks for casting your pearls before swine, just as Jesus did before you.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Just wondering. Is this response worthy of some sort of acceptance?

I accept your warm greeting, but I don't celebrate the Christ-mass because the Mass is an abomination to God, and it is not Jesus' birthday. But I accept your warm greeting.

 

[acptulsa]

But I accept your warm greeting.

Well, now. This is real progress! Yes sir, this is worth celebrating.

Perhaps by the next holiday season, we'll have softened you up sufficiently to stop looking down your elect Calvanistic nose long enough to pass out some warm greetings yourself.

 

[phill4paul]

I accept your warm greeting, but I don't celebrate the Christ-mass because the Mass is an abomination to God, and it is not Jesus' birthday. But I accept your warm greeting.

That's all I was seeking to give and be given in return this eve. Thank you.

 

[green73]

Egg Nog for all!

 

[Southron]

Egg Nog for all!

I'll drink to that!

 

[acptulsa]

I'll drink to that!

The secret isn't the eggs...

 

[fr33]

The secret isn't the eggs...

Since we only drink it once a year we just buy it premixed

 

[acptulsa]

Since we only drink it once a year we just buy it premixed

There's a company down in these parts called Braum's Ice Cream and Dairy Stores. They make an egg nog ice cream.

Pour a little Myer's Dark over it like a sundae topping, and you have a little thing I like to call a Deceptive. A couple of those and you don't know what hit you.

Keep your brandy and whatnot. Myer's tastes like crap. It's no rum to drink neat, or even over the rocks. But it does wonderful things for egg nog, and egg nog does wonderful things for it.

 

[green73]

Stir some eggs, add some sugar, milk and cream, nutmeg, and LOTS OF BOOZE.