Why do leftists hate Rand Paul more than any other candidate?

[jmdrake]

Where did this nonsense come from? We agree with Rand about 30% of the time, but the rest of Republicans less than 0% of the time.

So you've missed the leftists attacking Rand on trivial crap like the fact that he didn't graduate college even though he went on to complete medical school? These same leftists aren't covering Bill Clinton being caught up in a child sex abuse scandal. Why is that?

Edit: And I guess that's my point. Rand get's hated on by liberals for the silliest stuff when Rand actual represents things that liberals claim to support.

 

[TheFlash]

Rand is a threat to them .

 

[AuH20]

Rand is a threat to them .

How many government departments have the Republican Party closed since Calvin Coolidge? Therein lies your answer.

 

[acptulsa]

Where did this nonsense come from? We agree with Rand about 30% of the time, but the rest of Republicans less than 0% of the time.

Which, to those of us who can comprehend the language, is exactly why randomname is confused by the level of vitriol the progblogs are heaping on Rand Paul, to the exclusion of all those people they 'agree with 0% of the time'.

Care to explain that? Or are you incapable of anything but irrelevant drive-by distractions?

...REPUBLICRATS, PLEASE CEASE WITH THE MINDLESS, GD FOOL, 'LEFT-RIGHT' DICHOTOMY..

...(republicrat munchkins have their heads so stuffed full of $hit there is no room for any reality)

Why can't you confine your ceaseless redundancy to your own thread? Or do you really think this fact-free, insulting and anything-but-subtle screed is helping the Team Blue Republicrats realize that all this vitriol is designed to keep them from looking outside the Republicrat false choice?

Your words say, 'Escape the false paradigm!' but your tone says, 'Everyone who has rejected the false paradigm is a substance-free raving semi-literate you want no part of!'

 

[jmdrake]

Which, to those of us who can comprehend the language, is exactly why randomname is confused by the level of vitriol the progblogs are heaping on Rand Paul, to the exclusion of all those people they 'agree with 0% of the time'.

Care to explain that? Or are you incapable of anything but irrelevant drive-by distractions?

^This! Notice that nobody on the left criticized Rand Paul until he actually won the GOP Senate primary. Nobody. Had Rand Paul lost Rachel Madcow would have had him on to console him and commiserate how bad the "mean ole' GOP" had treated him.

 

[AuH20]

^This! Notice that nobody on the left criticized Rand Paul until he actually won the GOP Senate primary. Nobody. Had Rand Paul lost Rachel Madcow would have had him on to console him and commiserate how bad the "mean ole' GOP" had treated him.

Wasn't Rand Paul a semi-regular guest on Maddow's show until THE INTERVIEW (after he won)?

 

[jmdrake]

Wasn't Rand Paul a semi-regular guest on Maddow's show until THE INTERVIEW (after he won)?

Yep. In fact, if I recall correctly, he announced his candidacy on the Madcow show. He really got blindsided by that one.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

actuptulsa writes: Why can't you confine your ceaseless redundancy to your own thread? Or do you really think this fact-free, insulting and anything-but-subtle screed is helping the Team Blue Republicrats realize that all this vitriol is designed to keep them from looking outside the Republicrat false choice?

Your words say, 'Escape the false paradigm!' but your tone says, 'Everyone who has rejected the false paradigm is a substance-free raving semi-literate you want no part of!'



(lol!...i have less than 200 posts and you are pushing 40,000...and i am 'ceaselessly redundant'

(..!good grief, these republicrats are deluded!..

 

[thoughtomator]

Rand walks the walk on issue after issue where the lefties have been merely talking the talk for half a century, and he hits them right at the core of their self-images.

For example, while Rand talks about genuine prison reform, the lefties have been politically capitalizing on the brokenness of the system since MLK without actually doing a damn thing about it.

Rand is a real threat to their coalition. The anti-war faction still exists, bound and gagged and stuffed in the dungeon as it may be, and when they learn of Rand they defect to him. Same with blacks concerned with criminal justice disparities and police abuses that are mostly directed at them. Without these pieces of their coalition, they don't have electoral viability - and these are just some of the factions that Rand threatens to peel off from them.

And while they're staring in the face of a Hillary Clinton nomination, warmongering corporatist hypocrite cubed that she is, they are not terribly happy to begin with and are going to have severe trouble pulling their coalition together.

 

[acptulsa]

actuptulsa writes: Why can't you confine your ceaseless redundancy to your own thread? Or do you really think this fact-free, insulting and anything-but-subtle screed is helping the Team Blue Republicrats realize that all this vitriol is designed to keep them from looking outside the Republicrat false choice?

Your words say, 'Escape the false paradigm!' but your tone says, 'Everyone who has rejected the false paradigm is a substance-free raving semi-literate you want no part of!'



(lol!...i have less than 200 posts and you are pushing 40,000...and i am 'ceaselessly redundant'

(..!good grief, these republicrats are deluded!..

You should really look up the word 'redundant' some time.

You might just compare its definition to the definition of 'prolific', too, just for reference.

Unless you like being perceived as similar in both ignorance and willingness to lie and misrepresent as those pundits who insist on equating a desire to see government do less with a desire to see poor people starve in the streets.

If you want to prove to us you really aren't ignorant, the best way to do it is to post stuff that actually isn't ignorant.

 

[RonPaulMall]

The core tenet of leftism is authoritarianism. A candidate like Rick Santorum they despise on a personal level, but because he believes in the same sort of Big Government authoritarianism they do, he isn't a threat to the system itself. Rand they despise on a personal level too (white, Christian, family man, generally conservative) but because Rand challenges authoritarianism itself, with Rand it is more than just personal. Rand is the only GOP candidate who represents a genuine threat to leftist ideology itself.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Rand is a real threat to their ideology.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

They actually hate Rand more than Ron because Rand could actually win. And both Rand and Ron stood to pull from leftist constituencies. It's about power, not ideals. A John McCain or Jeb Bush strengthens the power of the wing power brokers because they can be better cast as "the enemy." But what do you say to your black constituents that you've kept in line all these years when they find out your republican opponent wants to end the wars and give you back your right to vote even if you have a drug felony?

This is probably the best answer (though I'm not sure if they hate Rand more than Ron, or just feel more threatened by him or maybe both).

I live in a very leftist part of the country, and I remember telling all of my liberal friends that Ron Paul opposed foreign wars, censorship, opposed the security state. Deep down they knew that he actually supported everything they claimed to want way more than anyone else -including Obama. They scrambled for any reason they could to not support him. It's the same thing all over again, except with a guy who's a much better politician than his father.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

I'd agree with the idea he's a threat to their established ideology, but it's because of the influence of MSM on their though process that reinforces fear and lines of attack over and over again that has the biggest impact on their dislike of Rand Paul vs. other established candidates, the devil they know.

Because libertarian leaning concepts tend to ask tough questions of the establishment it's something that threatens the status quo. Incremental change can be acceptable, but to many change that has widespread impacts that result in paradigm shifts (such as on foreign policy, economic, social) isn't something most people are ready to buy into therefore it's perceived as threatening and something that should be smothered out before it grows.

Also being pro-life is a non starter for many women in the U.S. and will auto generate hate on the left.

Lib-socs, ancoms and the like definitely hate ancaps more than anyone else, but I'm an ancap and I hate leftit statists and neocons way more than any of them. In theory, ancoms couldn't stop me from creating my system, and they also don't have any real power, o they're no real threat. Liberals and neocons are a different story.

 

[AuH20]

This is probably the best answer (though I'm not sure if they hate Rand more than Ron, or just feel more threatened by him or maybe both).

I live in a very leftist part of the country, and I remember telling all of my liberal friends that Ron Paul opposed foreign wars, censorship, opposed the security state. Deep down they knew that he actually supported everything they claimed to want way more than anyone else -including Obama. They scrambled for any reason they could to not support him. It's the same thing all over again, except with a guy who's a much better politician than his father.

Anyone who directly threatens the utopia (in their eyes) is a nonstarter for many of those people.

 

[Sola_Fide]

The core tenet of leftism is authoritarianism. A candidate like Rick Santorum they despise on a personal level, but because he believes in the same sort of Big Government authoritarianism they do, he isn't a threat to the system itself. Rand they despise on a personal level too (white, Christian, family man, generally conservative) but because Rand challenges authoritarianism itself, with Rand it is more than just personal. Rand is the only GOP candidate who represents a genuine threat to leftist ideology itself.

I agree.

 

[KingNothing]

Them hating Ron Paul I can understand, as he was much more extreme and the exact opposite of any an all of their stances, but what is it about Rand that is so revolting to left wingers compared to establishment republicans?

Because the people who set the narrative that they unwittingly follow are afraid of Rand.

 

[KingNothing]

Lib-socs, ancoms and the like definitely hate ancaps more than anyone else, but I'm an ancap and I hate leftit statists and neocons way more than any of them. In theory, ancoms couldn't stop me from creating my system, and they also don't have any real power, o they're no real threat. Liberals and neocons are a different story.

I kind of think that anarcho capitalism ultimately leads to anarcho communism, anyway. For an ancap system to last, people would have to be so productive, and so dedicated to serving and helping those in need, that enough wealth would be created and shared to appease everyone. And I think we, as a society, are headed in that direction, in spite of invasive government programs like Obamacare and Net Neutrality.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

I kind of think that anarcho capitalism ultimately leads to anarcho communism, anyway. For an ancap system to last, people would have to be so productive, and so dedicated to serving and helping those in need, that enough wealth would be created and shared to appease everyone. And I think we, as a society, are headed in that direction, in spite of invasive government programs like Obamacare and Net Neutrality.

How do you figure that? Even if that's true, wealth being shared doesn't mean there's communism necessarily. If there's private property, money and market competition providing most service it's still not an ancom society; for that to happen all those aforementioned things would need to be eradicated.

My conception of anarcho-capitalism is rather idiosyncratic. I am a Heathian, so I advocate privately owned cities that compete with one another for "citizens". I think that' a better system than non-geographical DROs that would replicate the desirable aspects of the state and eliminate everything we hate about it. I also don't see any way for it to devolve into anarcho-communism.

 

[philipped]

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