They seem to be supportive of Rand Paul. There's a lesson to be learned here.
I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian by the way.
Why didn't we get behind Gary Johnson?
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They seem to be supportive of Rand Paul. There's a lesson to be learned here.
I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian by the way.
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Gary Johnson missed a good opportunity to run for an open Senate seat in New Mexico. He was polling pretty well and would have had a good chance at beating the Dem. In 2014, he'll have to go up against an incumbent, so it'll be much harder for him to win. Rove and McConnell would have been happy because that'd be one more seat for the Republicans in a blue state and so would grassroots conservatives and libertarians who would have another Senator to stand with Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Ted Cruz and Jeff Flake.
Instead, he chose to piss off the establishment by running against Romney and piss off the grassroots by not becoming the next Tea Party Senator from New Mexico.
Instead, he chose to piss off the establishment by running against Romney and piss off the grassroots by not becoming the next Tea Party Senator from New Mexico.
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From what I understand, Ron Paul wanted government out of marriage altogether. It is a religious ceremony and should be left as such. If homosexuals want to marry what right does anyone to tell them they can't? It's when the benefits afforded to married couples come into discussion that it becomes a controversey.
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Outside of abstaining, Gary Johnson was the best choice in the 2012 general. Though, I would've preferred R. Lee Wrights.
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As to the OP, the reason I didn't support GJ is because of his views on foreign policy. I'm not sure if you have noticed, but it's a big deal to me. Pretty much a deal breaker depending on what exactly they say and do.
Make no doubt about it, the collapse of our empire will occur because of military adventurism. GJ did not seem firm enough to stop our meddling. I agreed with him on a lot of other issues, though.
Make no doubt about it, the collapse of our empire will occur because of military adventurism. GJ did not seem firm enough to stop our meddling. I agreed with him on a lot of other issues, though.
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Sorry, I do not mean to imply I favor nationalizing it. Yes, government should stay out of it.
This. He had no chance of winning the Presidency and could have made a good run at becoming a US Senator--a powerful position. Instead he blew his political capital on running for the LP. With that said, it pleases me is he may have help to deny Flip flop the presidency.
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Few simple reasons:
* He never seemed up to the task when he was on stage, in interviews, on radio shows. His message was wishy washy and muddled. I saw him trip up several times (Palin style) in TV interviews. It's OK for someone running for a lower office to not have every issue down, but Presidential candidates have to be able to hold their ground and win people over with their conviction and knowledge.
* He allowed himself to be easily derailed to the classic BS Libertarian issues like pot legalization. He was a non-factor on critical issues like the bailouts, corporatism, regulatory corruption, etc.. Those issues were _begging_ for an opinion to be voiced and all I get to hear about is pot?
* The Libertarian party is too dysfunctional and unfocused to bother supporting. Have you ever been to one of their meetings? It's beyond depressing. Johnson was above average for the Libertarian ticket, but Paul was obviously where the resources needed to be focused and we did that.
* He ran his campaign on debt. Nothing pisses me off more than a candidate who is running just to pay down his debt.
So like most people on this board, I have respect for Gary, and wish he had the sense to run for Senate instead.
* He never seemed up to the task when he was on stage, in interviews, on radio shows. His message was wishy washy and muddled. I saw him trip up several times (Palin style) in TV interviews. It's OK for someone running for a lower office to not have every issue down, but Presidential candidates have to be able to hold their ground and win people over with their conviction and knowledge.
* He allowed himself to be easily derailed to the classic BS Libertarian issues like pot legalization. He was a non-factor on critical issues like the bailouts, corporatism, regulatory corruption, etc.. Those issues were _begging_ for an opinion to be voiced and all I get to hear about is pot?
* The Libertarian party is too dysfunctional and unfocused to bother supporting. Have you ever been to one of their meetings? It's beyond depressing. Johnson was above average for the Libertarian ticket, but Paul was obviously where the resources needed to be focused and we did that.
* He ran his campaign on debt. Nothing pisses me off more than a candidate who is running just to pay down his debt.
So like most people on this board, I have respect for Gary, and wish he had the sense to run for Senate instead.
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Really?
When it's a 3rd party candidate in question to me that makes it worse. Let's be real, you're gonna lose 3rd party, the point you're getting at is to gain support.
At best in the end you either spend it as it comes in, or you might reserve a small lump, let people complain about that because they will, and put it into an endowment of some sort or into a political organization like Ron Paul did for C4L going forward post campaign.
But you don't go into debt. Not when there isn't any viable possibilities that would motivate you to do so. To my knowledge there hardly ever are anyway.
Running into debt third party, is insulting to me.
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Can we call this thread the "FINAL" opinion on Gary Johnson?
Here's the only real news I see about him.
Gary Johnson resumes role as chair of Our America Initiative (issues advocacy organization)
http://www.examiner.com/article/gary-johnson-resumes-role-as-chair-of-issues-advocacy-organization
Gary Johnson reboots with libertarian non-campaign campaign
http://newmexico.watchdog.org/16814/gary-johnson-reboots-with-libertarian-non-campaign-campaign/
Our America Initiative
http://ouramericainitiative.com/
Gary Johnson's Our America Initiative Promotes Abortion as a "Choice"
Foolish.
Abortion
Life is precious and needs to be protected. Deciding to have an abortion is a very difficult decision. We believe that ultimately it is a woman’s right to make such a decision during the early stage of pregnancy.
Life is precious and needs to be protected. Deciding to have an abortion is a very difficult decision. We believe that ultimately it is a woman’s right to make such a decision during the early stage of pregnancy.
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Dude, why are you being so hostile towards him? This is a guy who agrees with you on 99% of the issues and you're (for some reason) criticizing the logos of his activist group designed to promote the issues this movement is based on? He doesn't have to go around the country speaking in favor of our ideas, he could retire and travel the world if he wants to.And of course it's really just all about him. Exhibit A:
*facepalm*
Of course an activist group's website started by Gary Johnson, featuring Gary Johnson, that has Gary Johnson going around the country to over 30 states at over 150 stops when not running for president is going to have pictures of Gary Johnson and shit on the site. Why are you criticizing him for this?
This man is a hero. The attitude people like you have towards him is just so irrational I don't get it.
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Good job letting a manufactured issue used by the MSM to distract from everything this movement is based off of determine your vote.
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