Why aren't we all members of the John Birch Society?

[spacehabitats]

This may seem like a strange question.
I am NOT a member of JBS.
But even a cursory look at the JBS, their website, videos, literature, etc. makes it obvious that they agree with Dr. Paul on almost everything.
(They have his book on their front page and sell a DVD with one of his speeches, for example.)
Being a member of the Campaign for Liberty doesn't prevent us from joining other good organizations.
JBS has been around for fifty years and seems to be doing good work so.....

Why aren't we all members?

I have my own reasons for not having joined already, but I don't say they are very good ones. (And I'm thinking about joining anyway.)

But I would really like to hear YOURS.
Do you know something I need to know before I join?
Do you know how the JBS could be better or needs to change?
Help!

 

[votefreedomfirst]

I'm agnostic and it seems to be an organization heavily influenced by Christianity. I wish them luck and agree with their stated policy goals but I just don't think I'd fit in with that crowd.

 

[mediahasyou]

Also take a look into http://www.freedom-force.org/

 

[TruthisTreason]

I'm a member.

 

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

According to the JBS, the teaching of evolution in schools is "heresy."

Um... LOL!

Wayyyyyyyyy too religionist for me.

 

[StudentForPaul08]

According to the JBS, the teaching of evolution in schools is "heresy."

Um... LOL!

Wayyyyyyyyy too religionist for me.

Agree.

 

[spacehabitats]

OK, I see.

I'm agnostic and it seems to be an organization heavily influenced by Christianity. I wish them luck and agree with their stated policy goals but I just don't think I'd fit in with that crowd.

I'm not an agnostic, but some of my best friends are.

I guess that kind of stuff doesn't push my buttons either way, but thanks for the response!

 

[BarryDonegan]

i attend john birch society meetings.

its not for everyone, its more for christians in the liberty movement, but they are a great research society and provide a lot of the goods on CFR types in the government.

if you are christian, however, or can respect their christian perspective, they are the strongest and wealthiest liberty force in america, arguably.

 

[muzzled dogg]

lmao

why dont we all go to church?

 

[spacehabitats]

Thanks!

I'm a member.

And so are a lot of other good patriots.
I may be joining you soon, but I would really like to know what the "catch" is.
(If any.)

I guess its just my "if your so great, how come you ain't rich" skepticism.

I really want to know if we can avoid re-inventing the wheel by joining forces with some of these extant organizations, or if they need a good overhaul.

But thanks again for your reply.

 

[TruthisTreason]

And so are a lot of other good patriots.
I may be joining you soon, but I would really like to know what the "catch" is.
(If any.)

I guess its just my "if your so great, how come you ain't rich" skepticism.

I really want to know if we can avoid re-inventing the wheel by joining forces with some of these extant organizations, or if they need a good overhaul.

But thanks again for your reply.

No catch that I'm aware of. Nobody checking to see if I'm going to church or anything. They send out some emails and a newsletter and a magazine. Keeps you informed on some issues important. Have some meetups and are working on a more comprehensive website.

 

[Truth Warrior]

"I sent the club a wire stating, PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER." -- Groucho Marx

 

[spacehabitats]

Religion?

lmao

why dont we all go to church?

So I keep hearing things about church/Christianity/religion/evolution (a quasi-religious issue).

Is that it?

So if the JBS were an agnostic organization would any of you still have problems with it?

I guess I just can't get too excited about rubbing shoulders with religious types.
After all I'm going with my wife to the Republican National Convention.

I'm a Mormon and a lot of the evangelical Republicans would like to lynch us as infidels, but I don't have a problem THEM, as long as they can put down their Bibles long enough to throw the bums like McCain out of the party and restore the Constitution.

 

[StudentForPaul08]

So I keep hearing things about church/Christianity/religion/evolution (a quasi-religious issue).

Is that it?

So if the JBS were an agnostic organization would any of you still have problems with it?

I guess I just can't get too excited about rubbing shoulders with religious types.
After all I'm going with my wife to the Republican National Convention.

I'm a Mormon and a lot of the evangelical Republicans would like to lynch us as infidels, but I don't have a problem THEM, as long as they can put down their Bibles long enough to throw the bums like McCain out of the party and restore the Constitution.

They can be whatever religion they want personally, and they can even make a christian group that just aims for that audience, and i am well..not that audience.

 

[spacehabitats]

Freedom Force International

Also take a look into http://www.freedom-force.org/

Seems like a great organization too!

Fabulous statement of principles (Creed of Freedom) too.

Other than competing for my time and money; is there any reason why I shouldn't join both?

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Must everything be swayed by the religion on this f*cking forum?

Hey, let's not join the Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership too, because they all must be zionists, even though it's one of the best gun groups in the USA. Hey guys, we shouldn't go to the Rally for the Republic because a lot of the speakers there are Christians. Hey, let's not listen to Ron Paul at all, he's a Christian too!

Once again, people on this board are failing to look at the big picture. Big tent. You can have a belief in God and be very concerned with the way America is. The JBS has been the forefront of the movement against the NAU. To not join because majority of the people there are Christians is idiotic, and honestly, shameful. Best move out of the USA all together - 92% of Americans belief in God or a higher power.

John Birch himself was a Christian missionary who gave his life for the message of freedom and prosperity. If you don't want to model your life after someone like that, regardless of religious affiliation, then you do not belong in this movement. Any organization, regardless of religious affiliation, that is dedicated to the restoration of our Constitution and protecting civil rights is an organization we all should be behind.

 

[FrankRep]

I'm a member of the JBS.

We have atheists that attend meetings so it's not an all Christian thing.

 

[StudentForPaul08]

Must everything be swayed by the religion on this f*cking forum?

Hey, let's not join the Jews for the Protection of Firearm Ownership too, because they all must be zionists, even though it's one of the best gun groups in the USA. Hey guys, we shouldn't go to the Rally for the Republic because a lot of the speakers there are Christians. Hey, let's not listen to Ron Paul at all, he's a Christian too!

See but that is where you go wrong. I would join that group, even if they were all Jewish, as long as Judaism was not on the list of topics of concern or discussion. I am part of the CFL because though a lot of people are Christians, and a bunch of other things they do not make it a statement or go pro or against evolution. It is not at the level of the group to make a stance on a religion only at the level of the individual.

 

[FrankRep]

Also take a look into http://www.freedom-force.org/

Seems like a great organization too!

Fabulous statement of principles (Creed of Freedom) too.

Other than competing for my time and money; is there any reason why I shouldn't join both?

I would consider the John Birch Society and Freedom Force International two branches of the military. They want the same thing, but do it in different ways. Join both.

The leader of Freedom Force International, G. Edward Griffin, is also a John Birch Society member.

 

[FrankRep]

We're losing our country to the global elites and people here are worried about the John Birch Society because they lean Christian.

Petty in my opinion.