Why aren't there Free State Projects in every state?

[nakor667]

Why aren't there free state projects in every state?

Yes, the main focus is in New Hampshire, and there's Wyoming as well. But why aren't there more? We could have freedom minded communities in every state in the union! Or at least every region.

If we really want to liberate this country from the tyranny of government, we need to start taking over city councils and congressional districts everywhere we can!

That's why this Campaign For Liberty needs to adopt some of the ideas of the Free State Project. Every region needs a magnet area where we can start building support and momentum.

 

[FrankRep]

We need a Free State Project in a warm state!

 

[Nate K]

we need one for every region, so someone like FrankRep has a warm place to go.

 

[Knut Schreiber]

The idea of the FSP is that there aren't enough liberty-minded people and that they all are isolated in their respective state. So the idea is to bring them all together in one/few states to make a difference. A FSP in every state would ruin the whole idea, because that would not be anything different than today with libertarians being hugely outnumbered by statists.

 

[ChaosControl]

We need a Free State Project in a warm state!

I agree. Get one in South Carolina or something and I'm in.

 

[dr. hfn]

Lets make New Hampshire a success first and then worry about more projects! I'm a member, everyone sign up b/c you dont have to pledge to move.

 

[ItsTime]

If there was a free state project in every state there would be no need for a free state project.

 

[Nate K]

If there was a free state project in every state there would be no need for a free state project.

yea lol pretty much. nobody would have to move, we could just stay where we're at.

 

[Jeremy]

i dont think you know what fsp is

if there was one in every state there would be no fsp

 

[ItsTime]

If we all worked hard enough no one would have to move. Start off by doing this

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=163697

 

[Micah Dardar]

Warm state? I would suggest here in Louisiana. We have the French Quarter for entertainment, a low unemployment rate compared to most of America, and a mindset ready to rise from the bottom rankings to the top. We have a lot to work on, but I think that this state may finally be on the right track. With an influx of liberty-minded citizens, we could be free once again!

 

[nate895]

I agree. Get one in South Carolina or something and I'm in.

South Carolina already has at least 6 secessionist movements fighting over it. The League of the South, Christian Exodus, Republic of South Carolina, and at least two other pro-Confederate organizations want the state. I say we go down South and give the CSA a second shot (minus slavery and any hint of institutional racism).

 

[nbhadja]

I agree. Get one in South Carolina or something and I'm in.

Hahaha I consider going up to North Florida freezing.

 

[nakor667]

There's got to be some preexisting libertarian enclaves. Austin, Texas comes to mind. And several states out here in the west are anti-government and keep trying to legalize marijuana like Nevada, Colorado, and Arizona.

 

[Libertarian Ideals]

Free State Project members like to say, "We already have a project in every state, it's called the Libertarian Party. How has that worked so far?"


Also, the colder states (as opposed to the warmer states) usually have smaller governments because less people move to them and demand government assistance, like people do in California, Florida, etc.

If the whether is the only thing keeping you back from moving to NH, you probably aren't committed to the idea yet.

Most of the best activists in NH moved from warm states and originally signed up as friends of the Free State Project. Like them, you probably will have to research a bit before you are committed to moving to NH. The Free State Project website has much of those resources if you look.

Also, this project started in 2001, project's like these take much time and effort to get off the ground, which is another reason why there aren't more of them that are still around.

 

[porcupine]

The idea of the FSP is that there aren't enough liberty-minded people and that they all are isolated in their respective state. So the idea is to bring them all together in one/few states to make a difference. A FSP in every state would ruin the whole idea, because that would not be anything different than today with libertarians being hugely outnumbered by statists.

+1

There already is a "free state project" in every state. It's called the libertarian party and it's not working.

The FSP is about concentrated activism. Doing that in every state defeats the purpose.

I'm glad we're not in a warm state. I don't want a bunch of immigration from other states coming in after we do. All the warm states are too populous.

But by all means...start another FSP! More power to you!

 

[porcupine]

If we all worked hard enough no one would have to move. Start off by doing this

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=163697

You think the federal government is still savable. I don't (especially after the bailout), but I'm glad that you do. Keep up the good fight.

 

[porcupine]

Also, this project started in 2001, project's like these take much time and effort to get off the ground, which is another reason why there aren't more of them that are still around.

That's exactly right. It takes a gargantuan amount of energy from scores of volunteers for long periods of time to get this off the ground and keep it going. That's why almost all the other projects have folded. We're working to get to a point where the movement gets a snowball effect where the successes breed success and more movers. We're slowly working towards that point - as of this morning, we have 621 movers - but it's been an unbelievable amount of work to get here.

 

[Oyate]

Yeah IIRC correctly, the idea was extensively planned and the issue of WHICH state to pick was seriously contended. FSP tried to find a combination of things: a state which still retained more liberties, someplace remote from major terrorist targets or nuclear threats, someplace that afforded natural resources such as timber and game. Eventually, they picked NH.

This is all just what I've picked up from websites or osmosis over some years, and I'm continually surprised that we all don't know this stuff. I just guess I tend to assume people pretty much know what I know.

I think there's a lot to be said for patriots getting together on whatever larger, arable portions of land are available to us (private owners among us) for sheer survival purposes so FSP isn't the only model.

FSP isn't a refugee relief organization. We might start thinking along those lines as well.