Whose fault is this?? Certainly not the MSMs

[justatrey]

Do you have a source for those stats? I know I will be asked if I spread them around.

I stole the pic from another post on these forums. Someone had a post in Grassroots Central about exposing MSM blackout. Those stats are from one week.

 

[wfd40]

I'm so darned tired of the "don't blame the main stream media" threads.

What do we have here, a bunch of people who work for the main stream media in this forum?

dude, you dont get an easier 'sell' then 'pro-war vs. anti-war'... got that??

If you can't close that, you can't close shit.. you can't close shit... you are shit.. COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS ONLY

 

[Drknows]

I'd say the MSM played a HUGE part in this. HUGE. But RP's campaign staff share the other half of the blame. You can't blame the Grassroots. We've kicked ass.

+trillion

The media propped Mccain up from day one. They carried his ass in the debates ( Fox news gave him all the easy questions).

Everyday was about Mccain, Mitt, Fred and Rudy. No time for the guy who opposed the war from the start. Lets just paint him as kooky.

 

[Xyrus2]

I would say that the average American voter is dumb as a rock!

Stop insulting rocks.

~X~

 

[ShowMeLiberty]

Its not the campaign, its not the grassroots, its 99.99% the mainstream media! All anyone does is watch TV in this country!

Just look at this sample:

Compare the amount of MSM coverage to Super Tuesday results - 10:50 PM CST ( http://www.politico.com/ )

States Won
Obama: 9
Clinton: 7

McCain: 6
Romney: 5
Huckabee: 4
Paul: 0

Anybody else see a direct correlation?

 

[justatrey]

dude, you dont get an easier 'sell' then 'pro-war vs. anti-war'... got that??

If you can't close that, you can't close shit.. you can't close shit... you are shit.. COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS ONLY

You're forgetting that the war is no longer most people's #1 issue. So, I imagine that some voters who are against the war are voting for McCain because in their opinion there are more important issues.

Most importantly, they've been told by MSM not to take Paul seriously.

 

[Dr.3D]

dude, you dont get an easier 'sell' then 'pro-war vs. anti-war'... got that??

If you can't close that, you can't close shit.. you can't close shit... you are shit.. COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS ONLY

What ever that is supposed to mean. I sure don't understand what you just said.
I don't drink coffee for one thing. As for closing things, I close the door and the trunk of the car.

So how do you sell something when all of the free advertising is given to somebody else?

 

[driller80545]

People who rely on MSM to educate them about politics are dumb as rocks.

 

[wfd40]

+trillion

The media propped Mccain up from day one. They carried his ass in the debates ( Fox news gave him all the easy questions).

Everyday was about Mccain, Mitt, Fred and Rudy. No time for the guy who opposed the war from the start. Lets just paint him as kooky.

Small State, Big Splash Strategy
Benton said the Paul campaign has high hopes for some of the states holding caucuses today and some smaller states. While the campaign hasn't focused efforts on delegate-rich states like California, it has instead run a small state, big splash strategy in places like Minnesota, North Dakota, Nevada, Maine and Louisiana, hoping the libertarian Republican will be able to make his mark.

Further proof that Ron Paul's campaign is different (if any more were needed): While the others across the candidate pool spent every day this year in and out of the 24 total Super Tuesday states, Ron Paul did not start his retail trips into Super Tuesday states until Jan. 31. He had fewer than half the campaign events in all states that Sen. Hillary Clinton had in California.

Good strategy seriously, LOLZ

 

[CrownThyGood]

If anyone says it's not the media's fault then you're in lala land. those people need their butts sued off.

 

[nodope0695]

Ron Paul ran his campaign and he picked his staff -- so what exactly are you saying?

I'm saying his staff screwed the pooch. They squandered the money we gave them. I've not seen ONE SINGLE comercial where I live. I see them for the other candidates, but not from the RP campaign. People who live near me ordered materials from the campaign WEEKS ago, but have yet to recieve them.

All I'd like to see is some proof that the campaign staffers are doing SOMETHING with the money they've been given. ANYTHING.

 

[sandersondavis]

You don't like the results!
Then get your up off your ass and get to work.
Walk you precinct everyday. When you finish, start over. It's a winning strategy.
If Ron Paul doesn't win, the one person to blame is the one staring back at you from the mirror. This race won't be over after tonight. There is more time, not a lot so make every second, of every day count. Your future depends on your efforts.

 

[Drknows]

Most importantly, they've been told by MSM not to take Paul seriously.

Thats it.

 

[Goldwater Conservative]

dude, you dont get an easier 'sell' then 'pro-war vs. anti-war'... got that??

If you can't close that, you can't close shit.. you can't close shit... you are shit.. COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS ONLY

(1) Many McCain voters don't pay attention to or care about those details. Not our fault.

(2) A lot of media coverage goes on about how McCain has an "independent, moderate" appeal and how he's the "anti-establishment, anti-Bush" Republican, rarely mentioning that he's an entrenched Washington insider running on the Bush Plus platform and is an outright imperialist. Again, not our fault.

The grassroots have made some mistakes, and the official campaign has made many, but none of that made the difference between winning or even doing well and performing at the level Paul is now. We can canvass all we want, but when the people we're talking to turn on the news and get fed the most blatant BS day after day, all our hard work can evaporate over night.

 

[4RP08inKCMO]

Let's not forget how many times we have heard "I'd vote for Ron Paul if he had a chance." Whose fault is that? I'm looking at the MSM.

 

[CrownThyGood]

Stephanopolous: What's this all about?
Thomas Jefferson: Restoring America back to it's roots and ending any chance of tyrrany!
Stephanopolous:That's not gonna happen.

 

[wfd40]

If anyone says it's not the media's fault then you're in lala land. those people need their butts sued off.

chicken/egg...

Personally.. I think a solid campaign that produces results produces media attention and thus, momentum - call me crazy, but looking over at how Huck has done today, compared to how god awful we did.. I'd say my conclusions are pretty much rock solid and totally based on FACT

 

[Ninja Homer]

The MSM played a big part, but even bigger is the ignorance of the voters.

Seriously, if all the people in the US are really this dumb, then the people on this forum should be able to f'ing own this whole country by the end of the year. If there really is an Illuminati, they really suck at what they do, because they could have completely taken over this country over 100 years ago.

 

[Dr.3D]

Everybody knows the Rooster came first!

 

[wfd40]

(1) Many McCain voters don't pay attention to or care about those details. Not our fault.

(2) A lot of media coverage goes on about how McCain has an "independent, moderate" appeal and how he's the "anti-establishment, anti-Bush" Republican, rarely mentioning that he's an entrenched Washington insider running on the Bush Plus platform and is an outright imperialist.

all I'm saying is that media-schmedia... Dr. Paul had by far and away the right message at the right time.. and yet, DESPITE THAT, somehow managed to totally blow not just 35million dollars, but how many millions more in grassroots projects/time...

Basically what I'm saying is... we had to go out of our way to lose this thing as badly as we did tonight.. and to pin it all on the MSM is totally ignoring the fact that our campaign was manned with basically zero INSIDERS who could have given Dr. Paul serious credibility early on

In other words, Ed Rollins should have been hired the day after we raised 4.2million dollars)