Who's worst?

Who's worst?

  • Clinton

    Votes: 32 20.6%
  • McCain

    Votes: 84 54.2%
  • Obama

    Votes: 39 25.2%

  • Total voters
    155
F*ck the polls.

They all suck.

Funny how the most honest man running wasnt talked about since NH primary. Funny.
 
Well, since they will all ruin this country but McCain will do it while sending troops to die, I'll go with McCain being the worst.
 
Well, since they will all ruin this country but McCain will do it while sending troops to die, I'll go with McCain being the worst.

Where do you get this idea? They all have the same foreign policy playbook and speak of it freely. It might not be to their biggest crowds, but when asked specific questions, they are all shown to be the same.
 
obama is the worst because he's such an empty rhetoric actor. at least you know where the other two crooks stand. with obama, you don't have a clue.
 
Obama has more potential to do more damage because the media fawns over him constantly with very little criticism.
 
Where do you get this idea? They all have the same foreign policy playbook and speak of it freely. It might not be to their biggest crowds, but when asked specific questions, they are all shown to be the same.

I get this idea.. from their platforms???

duh.

Obviously they aren't the same. Barack Obama and Hillary don't want to fight a war anymore, even though they would still increase the amount of military in general around the world and wouldn't mind. McCain would just keep doing what Mr. Bush has done in Iraq.
 
McCain is really only bad on a few issues, although they are crucial. This poll actually surprises me.. is the war seriously THE biggest issue for so many people? I like Ron Paul's stance on it, but for me, its really not even in the top 3. This is a real toughie. I'm not voting for any of these candidates, but its between a war monger with some decent overall politcies, vs leftists with an iffy stance on war in general, and many policies/programs which have a greater chance of being enact with a democratic majority everywhere....

But just for fun, the rundown, in my opinion:

McCain:
The Good:
Pro free trade (NAFTA is managed trade, sure, but he also votes against protectionist measures, and NAFTA is far better than protectionism)
Pro-gun
Pro-life (this isnt a huge deal for me, but a plus)
Generally pro-business, pro-market, etc
For fiscal discipline, and dealing with entitlements
Against most subsidies

The Bad:
I'm on the fence about global warming, though im going to put this as bad for now since im skeptical of the movement as a whole...

For government (taxpayer) funding of stem cell research, etc

The Ugly:
HUGE warmonger
Very pro-surveillance and PATRIOT act, against civil liberties
potentially a "globalist sellout"

Clinton
The Good:
Nothing

The Bad:
Too much to put..
Hardly anti-war

The Ugly:
General massive expansion of government (socialized medicine, higher taxes)
Zealously anti-gun
Generally Protectionist


Obama
The Good:
Seems to be a bit more level headed on foreign policy than the other two

The Bad:
However, as an addendum to the foreign policy bit, has said conflicting things
Cult of personality
Health care plan isnt as socialist as Clinton, but very interventionist nonetheless
Iffy on some civil liberties

The Ugly:
Zealously anti-gun, like clinton
Generally protectionist, moreso than Clinton
Seems to have a nice little economic "plan" for every issue... sort of like... a communist?



Ron Paul
The Awesome:
Almost everything

The Not so awesome:
Old

The terrible:
Unfortunately, he has no chance at the presidency
 
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They all suck the same but in diffrent ways ... McWar will start and sustain war till we go into ruin and lose countless lives.

Hillery will spend us into ruin and be corrupt as ever until we start killing eachother for food and gas and the loss of countless lives.

Obama is a total empty air bag and will not be able to get a damn thing done because hes clueless on how to work the system. So the current underlings will keep running things on bush's course and we all know how well thats going. Albeit it will be a tad slower coming then hillerys plan it will be just as disasterous.

And for shits and giggles Huckadork will put us into a theocracy freeing all the pedophiles mandatory religion just like the middle east causing turmoil and more infighting.
 
Obama
The Good:
Seems to be a bit more level headed on foreign policy than the other two

Obama's foreign policy advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, is a co-founder of the Trilateral Commission, CFR member, and Bilderberger. Learn about him.

From DEMOCRACY NOW [1/3/08]:
ALLAN NAIRN: Well, Obama’s top adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski gave an interview to the French press a number of years ago where he boasted about the fact that it was he who created the whole Afghan jihadi movement, the movement that produced Osama bin Laden. And he was asked by the interviewer, “Well, don’t you think this might have had some bad consequences?” And Brzezinski replied, “Absolutely not. It was definitely worth it, because we were going after the Soviets. We were getting the Soviets.” Another top Obama person—

AMY GOODMAN: I think his comment actually was, “What’s a few riled-up Muslims?” And this, that whole idea of blowback, the idea of arming, financing, training the Mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets, including Osama bin Laden, and then when they’re done with the Soviets, they set their sights, well, on the United States.

ALLAN NAIRN: Right. And later, during Bill Clinton’s administration, during the Bosnia killing, the US actually flew some of the Afghan Mujahideen, the early al-Qaeda people—the US actually arranged for them to be flown from there to Bosnia to fight on the Muslim/NATO side.

Mike Ruppert gives a lecture on Zbigniew Brzezinski:
PART 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qsDjUWKOHQ
PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I65v_B5trGs
 
thank you, humanic. i've read the zbig stuff by webster tarpley, which was pretty frightening. appreciate another source of information to fill in more blanks on obama's puppeteer.
 
Yeah, McDrain. Look in any dictionary under Evil, and you'll see his mugg.
See also: Jackal; Satan; Nosferatu....
 
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