Who's worst?

[Patriot123]

I'd rather die. Our founders would shoot themselves if they were forced to vote in this poll. Option A) 666. Option B) 666. Option C) 666. Not much of a difference. And I mean the "666's" sarcastically. Plus, I'm Jewish. But anywho, they're all horrible, all the same. They're all going to do the same amount of damage to this country. Maybe if Hillary wins, she MIGHT actually do the least damage. Just the impression I get. She seems a bit weaker than Obama. Plus, the media is beginning to dislike her, so that aught' to keep her in check, at least somewhat... Moreso than Obama and McCain. Just by a hair, though, so to the point where it doesn't even make too much of a difference... :/

Honestly, I see a violent revolt coming. I think that one of these three stooges are going to try something like taking away our second amendment rights completely. I see one of the two options for our future: 1) Violent revolt. 2) Violent revolt via secession.

 

[nate895]

I'd rather die. Our founders would shoot themselves if they were forced to vote in this poll. Option A) 666. Option B) 666. Option C) 666. Not much of a difference. And I mean the "666's" sarcastically. Plus, I'm Jewish. But anywho, they're all horrible, all the same. They're all going to do the same amount of damage to this country. Maybe if Hillary wins, she MIGHT actually do the least damage. Just the impression I get. She seems a bit weaker than Obama. Plus, the media is beginning to dislike her, so that aught' to keep her in check, at least somewhat... Moreso than Obama and McCain. Just by a hair, though, so to the point where it doesn't even make too much of a difference... :/

Honestly, I see a violent revolt coming. I think that one of these three stooges are going to try something like taking away our second amendment rights completely. I see one of the two options for our future: 1) Violent revolt. 2) Violent revolt via secession.

I like option 2 if it must come down to choosing between those two.

 

[Patriot123]

I like option 2 if it must come down to choosing between those two.

Sort of scary to think about, really. And I won't go on any further than this and risk being arrested by the NSA via AT&T and labeled as a terrorist, but... Really. This is what it's going to come down to, and we all know it in our hearts. This is exactly what this is going to come down to. Exactly. Every single one of us knows this in our hearts.
On the topic of the one of the two, I'd probably go with the first. I wouldn't just want to succeed... That's pretty much betraying our country. We should fix it, not go and start a new one :/ Just my two cents, really. I'd just, quite honestly, would rather die than be exhiled from the country that our forefathers built." Well, I mean... I wouldn't necessarily rather die, but I wouldn't just betray our country, you know? "Live free or die."

 

[clouds]

They will realize it can do wrong when their economy is in the toilet.

not that it isn't... just waiting for some one to flush...

 

[ThePieSwindler]

NAFTA is killing Ohio. Good for Texas, bad for us here.

Proof, other than hearsay and "people losing jobs"? Look, im not a NAFTA fan, but its not because i dislike free trade. If you want to have a debate on the overwhelmingly positive merits of free trade vs shaky anti-trade rheotric that ive seen little real backing of issue, lets rumble. In fact, according to this:

http://jfs.ohio.gov/releases/unemp/200801/UnempPressRelease.asp

Ohio's rise in unemployment coincides with the general rise inthe US, although its already over slightly. First, i highly doubt NAFTA is responsible for the whole .6% difference between the US and the Ohio rate. Even if so, its not enough to be for any form of protectionism, which in the long run hurts EVERYONE's standard of living.

 

[ThePieSwindler]

you guys really think McCain will protect gun rights? I just can't see it....

yeah i think youre right ctually, I had thought he was decent on it but hes been in on alot of compromise bills, so scratch that off my list.

 

[H Roark]

I would prefer protectionist policies to NAFTA any day, because with managed trade deals such as NAFTA; they serve as the vehicle to globalist goals like the NAU. You kind of forgot to mention that in your comparison chart there...

 

[Fox McCloud]

Obama.

With McCain and Clinton, you know what you're getting, because they're not afraid to say it, and they haven't a clue how to be subtle or deceptive (well, they do, but they're not particularly good at it).

Obama hides it with charisma and the way he says things--you really don't know what he has planned.

 

[ThePieSwindler]

I would prefer protectionist policies to NAFTA any day, because with managed trade deals such as NAFTA; they serve as the vehicle to globalist goals like the NAU. You kind of forgot to mention that in your comparison chart there...

NAFTA itself sucks, but NAFTA as the symbol of free trade is what i am defending. Regional and unilateral free trade deals

As for NAU, that, and some of the potential restrictons built in to it, are reasons that i dislike NAFTA itself, although i dont see NAU as some globalist conspiracy so much as i see it to be very similar to the EU - not good in my personal opinion because it is a consolidation of political power, but not part of some illuminati/Bilderberg (though im not denying bilderberg existence) plot to take over the world. But McCain is for free trade in general, so thats a plus for him, compared to strict protectionism.

 

[TastyWheat]

Very tough, but looking ahead I think McCain will really hurt the conservative movement as president if he doesn't spend us into the ground with endless war.

 

[humanic]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1311921#post1311921

thank you, humanic. i've read the zbig stuff by webster tarpley, which was pretty frightening. appreciate
another source of information to fill in more blanks on obama's puppeteer.

Very welcome -- we need to educate ourselves and others as much as possible about this kind of thing.

I strongly recommend watching the full lecture that those clips are taken from. It's on google video HERE.