Whoomp there it is : H.R. 127 A Bill to destroy possession of Firearms

[tod evans]

Continue using the enemy's tools, and you will only ever serve their purposes.

I don't think the Texan is "using anyone's tools", there's a huge divide in the country, on many fronts, and those who live in or near the cities are going to bear the brunt of any sorting of the issues.

Those who watch the Tee-Vee are going to polarize along predetermined lines instead of natural ones.

 

[TheTexan]

Continue using the enemy's tools, and you will only ever serve their purposes.

The enemy's tool is compliance.

Through fear and intimidation.

It is true that they want the left to radicalize.

Radicalization of the right, however, is a burden assiduously avoided. It is not unexpected however, and thus not beyond a measure of control.

Which is what you are seeing today: Compliance.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

I'm waiting for them to attack the electoral college.

 

[Anti Globalist]

A bill of this caliber should be able to make a million man march on DC happen.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

HUH?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54LgyqSPfsQ

 

[Philhelm]

Secession is for pussies that prefer peace to war. And DOOMED to fail. Had the South pressed at it's inception, instead of trying to establish a line of demarcation, history would be different. TOTAL war against the Fed. Gov. is the only hope. Just as the War of Independence. The President, Vice-President and, at least, 90% of the House of Representatives need to tread air.
There, I said it. Molon-Labe.

I agree. Secession is DOA since we would need to rely upon sanitized (pussified) state leadership in order to enact. I suspect most people use "secession" as a safe placeholder for "revolution."

 

[Anti Federalist]

I'm neither your enemy or an idiot, and I am not scared. The absolute worst that can happen is that I'm killed by the machine. My physical body is gone and my energy moves on. Regrettable yes, but I will not live in fear even though I do see clearly what is coming.

I would then concern myself with judgement.

I reckon God will judge rather harshly those who, when faced with evil in their time, rather than mobilize and fight to protect the innocent, stood down, discouraged their fellow men and waited for God to consume the unrighteous and wicked with bolts of fire from his ass.

 

[TheTexan]

I agree. Secession is DOA since we would need to rely upon sanitized (pussified) state leadership in order to enact. I suspect most people use "secession" as a safe placeholder for "revolution."

If we can't rely on a pussified populace to even secede, it seems a stretch to me, that those same pussies would be willing to engage in a civil war.

I don't have any disillusioned notion that secession would not be met with violence, but it would seem to be a necessary first step regardless.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Continue using the enemy's tools, and you will only ever serve their purposes.

Quit trying to navel gaze and over complicate this in order to cause FUD.

Forces of brutal authoritarian despotism are taking their seats at the levers of power, after working stealthily in the background for decades.

Their goal is unity with their purpose at all costs and absolute despotism.

Nothing new about this, it has happened hundreds of times through recorded history.

"We" are marked for forceful compliance and eventual extermination.

We resist and fight or we capitulate and die, individually and collectively.

Nothing more difficult than that.

 

[Philhelm]

If we can't rely on a pussified populace to even secede, it seems a stretch to me, that those same pussies would be willing to engage in a civil war.

I don't have any disillusioned notion that secession would not be met with violence, but it would seem to be a necessary first step regardless.

I think that there is a greater chance of people boiling over organically than for state officials to declare secession.

 

[tod evans]

Quit trying to navel gaze and over complicate this in order to cause FUD.

Forces of brutal authoritarian despotism are taking their seats at the levers of power, after working stealthily in the background for decades.

Their goal is unity with their purpose at all costs and absolute despotism.

Nothing new about this, it has happened hundreds of times through recorded history.

"We" are marked for forceful compliance and eventual extermination.

We resist and fight or we capitulate and die, individually and collectively.

Nothing more difficult than that.

Well said good sir!

 

[belian78]

I would then concern myself with judgement.

I reckon God will judge rather harshly those who, when faced with evil in their time, rather than mobilize and fight to protect the innocent, stood down, discouraged their fellow men and waited for God to consume the unrighteous and wicked with bolts of fire from his ass.

I do no such thing.

 

[belian78]

Quit trying to navel gaze and over complicate this in order to cause FUD.

Forces of brutal authoritarian despotism are taking their seats at the levers of power, after working stealthily in the background for decades.

Their goal is unity with their purpose at all costs and absolute despotism.

Nothing new about this, it has happened hundreds of times through recorded history.

"We" are marked for forceful compliance and eventual extermination.

We resist and fight or we capitulate and die, individually and collectively.

Nothing more difficult than that.

I've no idea what FUD is, so that's lost on me. The rest of your post I will not argue at all, I completely agree. The only place you and I are at odds is I don't want to paint regular mainstreet citizens that just so happen to consider themselves democrats with the same brush as I do the actual string pullers. Those people are going to be on the chopping block just the same as us here soon, they will realize just like most mainstreet republicans will how badly they've been manipulated.

I've no hesitation in using whatever force I need to employ to stop someone or something from keeping me living my life as I see fit. But I will not look at my fellow human beings that have been so abused as I have been with anger or hate. It really says something that this mentality is so attacked on these forums these days.

 

[TheTexan]

I've no idea what FUD is, so that's lost on me. The rest of your post I will not argue at all, I completely agree. The only place you and I are at odds is I don't want to paint regular mainstreet citizens that just so happen to consider themselves democrats with the same brush as I do the actual string pullers. Those people are going to be on the chopping block just the same as us here soon, they will realize just like most mainstreet republicans will how badly they've been manipulated.

I've no hesitation in using whatever force I need to employ to stop someone or something from keeping me living my life as I see fit. But I will not look at my fellow human beings that have been so abused as I have been with anger or hate. It really says something that this mentality is so attacked on these forums these days.

One of the nicest guys I've ever met, a person I still consider a friend, once said he would gladly put a bullet in my brain, if it was necessary to maintain his political agenda.

Just because they are nice people, whose kids are friends with your kids, and generally lead a happy life.

They will still put a bullet in your brain. If and when required.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

I agree. Secession is DOA since we would need to rely upon sanitized (pussified) state leadership in order to enact. I suspect most people use "secession" as a safe placeholder for "revolution."

IF secession is DOA, then everything is DOA. Where do you think all of this goes?

Whether secession can be had peacefully or not isn't really material here. The point is that there are 3 paths forward - they eliminate us, we eliminate them, or we go our separate ways.

ETA: I'm 100% NOT in favor of rounding people up because they don't agree with me politically. Now, if that's their tactic, so be it and we'll deal with that. But I absolutely will work toward finding a path toward secession before I go in with that.

 

[TheTexan]

The point is that there are 3 paths forward - they eliminate us, we eliminate them, or we go our separate ways.

2 out of 3 of these outcomes, are acceptable

 

[A Son of Liberty]

2 out of 3 of these outcomes, are acceptable

2 out of those 3 outcomes are Yugoslavia, or Northern Ireland. So I'll pass on twenty some years of internecine, guerrilla, sectarian conflict while a wealthy society crumbles around us and some future global power intermittently bombs parts of this country because the leader got an unapproved BJ.

Let's just skip to the f**king end part, where we end up dividing things up anyway, and deciding to live peacefully, separately, and regretting all of the killing that went on.

AGAIN, if the other side chooses conflict, that's on them. But as for ME, I'm with Ron - secession is the only way forward here.

 

[TheTexan]

2 out of those 3 outcomes are Yugoslavia, or Northern Ireland. So I'll pass on twenty some years of internecine, guerrilla, sectarian conflict while a wealthy society crumbles around us and some future global power intermittently bombs parts of this country because the leader got an unapproved BJ.

Let's just skip to the f**king end part, where we end up dividing things up anyway, and deciding to live peacefully, separately, and regretting all of the killing that went on.

AGAIN, if the other side chooses conflict, that's on them. But as for ME, I'm with Ron - secession is the only way forward here.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to A Son of Liberty again.

Bonus points for using the word "internecine" in a sentence.

 

[cjm]

I think that there is a greater chance of people boiling over organically than for state officials to declare secession.

That's the way I see it happening (if it happens at all). Maybe county by county, ignoring federal and state mandates... even laws. More of a nullification than actual secession but even if it's mostly peaceful, we'd all be outlaws on the books, waiting for the second shoe to drop. We'll see. Lots of variables in this equation.

 

[Anti Federalist]

IF secession is DOA, then everything is DOA. Where do you think all of this goes?

Whether secession can be had peacefully or not isn't really material here. The point is that there are 3 paths forward - they eliminate us, we eliminate them, or we go our separate ways.

ETA: I'm 100% NOT in favor of rounding people up because they don't agree with me politically. Now, if that's their tactic, so be it and we'll deal with that. But I absolutely will work toward finding a path toward secession before I go in with that.

I think they are talking about peaceful secession.

I happen to agree, I think we've gone past that point.

Theye are not going to allow us to just walk away.