Whoomp there it is : H.R. 127 A Bill to destroy possession of Firearms

[A Son of Liberty]

Plus there's a reason why they are keeping thousands of soldiers in the capitol through at least March.

I would assume they are planning to pass something nefarious between now and then. And they plan on needing protection.

My assumption would be that they are keeping them there through the impeachment.

 

[kahless]

We all have differing views here but one thing we all have in common is that we will not accept any further infringement of our gun rights. Whether the route is state or regional succession or revolution, the greatest threat to any success is brainwashed gun owners that will simply comply and not resist.

OK. Before THIS thread slides.....

This is NOT about Trump. This is NOT about election fraud.

THIS is about a full on Marxist threat by the CURRENT Marxist Executive Administration and the Legislative branch, and the actions that are going to be needed to END this bullshit.

Back on topic.

I will just reply to this and be done.

What about 50+ hours of testimony provided to state legislature hearings by hundreds of witnesses?

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence, across numerous different categories. I have seen more than enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the election was stolen. For the vast majority of the evidence, it has never even been addressed, in any court room, or by any SOS. Just ignored, dismissed.

Sites like the below only scratch the surface of the evidence that is available. There is too much to even get it all catalogued.

https://www.hereistheevidence.com

The ONLY way you could convince me at this point that the election wasn't stolen, is if I were to be provided an equal amount of documentation/evidence that the Republicans were doing the same amount of shenanigans as the Democrats. There is ZERO evidence to make that assertion.

You need to take a closer look at that site. It is literally linking to supporters tweets as evidence. That is not hard evidence. All smoke and mirrors like everything else. Regardless what the truth really is, he is done, time to move on and for some new blood. Any revolution or succession is going to need leaders outside of the elites and without baggage that family has

 

[phill4paul]

Question to members. IF this bill were to pass would you...

1) Comply and work to change hearts and minds.
2) Not comply and hold up at home in the hopes that you don't get zero-dark-thirtied.
3) Strike at the root of the tree.
4) Other.

 

[TheTexan]

First, I didn't say that secession wouldn't come without war. I'm saying it's our best chance at avoiding a sectarian conflict that would make the dissolution of Kosovo look like a day at the park.

Second, I'd love to hear what the alternative is...

I still think buying a country might work. Buy both the land and the legitimacy from an existing country. Getting the country(s) to agree to recognize us as a new country, would likely cost some order of magnitude more than the land itself.

The small country would of course never truly be free. It would still be forced to participate in things like international drug prohibitions, and make various other concessions to avoid being invaded. But it could still be the free'st country in the world.

It worked for the Jews.

 

[phill4paul]

First, I didn't say that secession wouldn't come without war. I'm saying it's our best chance at avoiding a sectarian conflict that would make the dissolution of Kosovo look like a day at the park.

Second, I'd love to hear what the alternative is...

There is NO alternative. That is what you are not seeing. And IF secession is going to lead to War then one might as well just go to it, spit on their hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

 

[TheTexan]

Question to members. IF this bill were to pass would you...

1) Comply and work to change hearts and minds.
2) Not comply and hold up at home in the hopes that you don't get zero-dark-thirtied.
3) Strike at the root of the tree.
4) Other.

I would comply with the law, assuming I even had any guns which I sold for cash a long time ago. Lost a few in an unfortunate boating accident a while back also.

If enough people grew large enough balls to do a million man ARMED march/peaceful-protest on DC. I might attend and see what happens.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Watch for the massive propaganda roll-out to start any minute and a horrific false flag shooting to "force Congress to act". Same script every time.

Any day now...and it's going to be gruesome...a black Baptist Sunday school full of little kids or some such.

 

[TheTexan]

My assumption would be that they are keeping them there through the impeachment.

I think that's just their cover story. Noone gives a shit about a fake impeachment that has 0 chance of passing.

 

[TheTexan]

You need to take a closer look at that site. It is literally linking to supporters tweets as evidence. That is not hard evidence. All smoke and mirrors like everything else. Regardless what the truth really is, he is done, time to move on and for some new blood. Any revolution or succession is going to need leaders outside of the elites and without baggage that family has

That site isn't my source of information. I've barely looked at it, and linked it for your convenience as its one of the few places that has even tried to aggregate the information. Skimming through it there are legitimate links in there but I can't speak for the veracity of all of it. It's probably not fair to dismiss all of it as "twitter links" even though I'm sure some are exactly that.

My sources are primarily the eye witness testimonies, the SOS official responses, and the court documents. None of this comes in any kind of easily-digestible format. Which is how they were able to get away with this scam. Most people have neither the time nor the inclination to give any of it a proper review.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yes, but again the point is that will be their choice, to initiate violence.

Probably the worst possible path is some ham-fisted attempt at a coup, or insurrection. What's the point? To overthrow a government, and then rule over half a nation that now can legitimately claim that they're basically being held against their will? Do people think that a trial will sway their opinion? Or that some supposed detailing of "the facts"? We're living in a society where (at least) 2 groups of people are looking at the same timeline and coming away with 2 completely disparate interpretations.

Getting secessionism into the popular conscience is about as good a chance as we have of avoiding catastrophe. And I'll grant you, it's not a good chance. But it's better than giving into bloodlust. There's a better chance that we can have a free(r) society on the other side of this is we make a legitimate and peaceful claim to secede. Hell, they might even be happy to have us go... they're so convinced we'd turn into a 3rd world country, they might let us go peacefully just so they can laugh at us.

But no one is talking about secession. Everyone is hepped up on the energy of 1/6, like it was a good idea. It's going to take something no more than half of that embarrassment of a sh!t show for them to really ratchet down. Then you can forget about everything. The best you'll be able to hope for at that point is to go out in a blaze of glory. Which sounds great and all, until you realize that there is more at stake here than just YOU. There is our posterity to consider.

I hate to get all maudlin and invoke the "Founders" (pbut), but I'm gonna:

No no, I think you misunderstood.

Secession and separation is still by far the only logical choice.

I just don't think it will be allowed to be done peacefully, or that we should waste time trying to achieve that goal.

If it happens that way, great, but if not, well, that's OK too.

Just so long as the separation moves forward.

It's probably high time that we list our reasons why:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

 

[phill4paul]

We all have differing views here but one thing we all have in common is that we will not accept any further infringement of our gun rights. Whether the route is state or regional succession or revolution, the greatest threat to any success is brainwashed gun owners that will simply comply and not resist.

I remember a video, I think on this site, where a bar/restaurant opened despite of Covid restrictions. There were about four Rmabo wannabees in battle-rattle. The Sheriff/Police showed up with their APC and rifles and the Wannabees just surrendered there weapons and got arrested. The most dumbest shit I've ever seen. Two or three shooters in a high position would have caused that L.E. to re-examine his perceived 'superior' position. Instead those Wannabees lost their firearms and went to jail. The bar was then closed. If you are going to do this shit you HAVE TO go into it knowing today might be your day. And not give a fuck. But, Damnit, if they want to go all out then make the price so heavy that those that attempt it the next time are given DOUBT about their level of success.

I will just reply to this and be done.



You need to take a closer look at that site. It is literally linking to supporters tweets as evidence. That is not hard evidence. All smoke and mirrors like everything else. Regardless what the truth really is, he is done, time to move on and for some new blood. Any revolution or succession is going to need leaders outside of the elites and without baggage that family has

I'm moving on. Trump is not POTUS anymore. Marxists are now running the Fed. Gov. And they aren't even trying to hide it. There's no point in constantly bringing in the election or the fraud. It's really not needed. All that is needed is paying attention to what is going on NOW.

 

[phill4paul]

I would comply with the law, assuming I even had any guns which I sold for cash a long time ago. Lost a few in an unfortunate boating accident a while back also.

If enough people grew large enough balls to do a million man ARMED march/peaceful-protest on DC. I might attend and see what happens.

Hopefully, no one you know, in particular kids, grandkids, nephews, nieces, inculcated by the Commies has information to the contrary and is susceptible to Fed. Gov. monetary gain. Or temporary fame.

 

[phill4paul]

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[Anti Federalist]

I remember a video, I think on this site, where a bar/restaurant opened despite of Covid restrictions. There were about four Rmabo wannabees in battle-rattle. The Sheriff/Police showed up with their APC and rifles and the Wannabees just surrendered there weapons and got arrested. The most dumbest shit I've ever seen. Two or three shooters in a high position would have caused that L.E. to re-examine his perceived 'superior' position. Instead those Wannabees lost their firearms and went to jail. The bar was then closed. If you are going to do this shit you HAVE TO go into it knowing today might be your day. And not give a fuck. But, Damnit, if they want to go all out then make the price so heavy that those that attempt it the next time are given DOUBT about their level of success.

This.

I'm moving on. Trump is not POTUS anymore. Marxists are now running the Fed. Gov. And they aren't even trying to hide it. There's no point in constantly bringing in the election or the fraud. It's really not needed. All that is needed is paying attention to what is going on NOW.

And this.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I agree. Secession is DOA since we would need to rely upon sanitized (pussified) state leadership in order to enact. I suspect most people use "secession" as a safe placeholder for "revolution."

Yeah the states were far worse than the Federal Government. The states pretty much enforced all the lockdowns.

 

[kahless]

I remember a video, I think on this site, where a bar/restaurant opened despite of Covid restrictions. There were about four Rmabo wannabees in battle-rattle. The Sheriff/Police showed up with their APC and rifles and the Wannabees just surrendered there weapons and got arrested. The most dumbest shit I've ever seen. Two or three shooters in a high position would have caused that L.E. to re-examine his perceived 'superior' position. Instead those Wannabees lost their firearms and went to jail. The bar was then closed. If you are going to do this shit you HAVE TO go into it knowing today might be your day. And not give a fuck. But, Damnit, if they want to go all out then make the price so heavy that those that attempt it the next time are given DOUBT about their level of success.

I am all for everyone's right to armed defense but maybe to think strategically about dealing with an enemy would be to support a disarming the police movement. Problem solved.

I think the right should support defunding the police and embrace private alternatives. If the local populace is against gun control and they are paid by support from locals, maybe they would not be so quick to implement a gun confiscation order.

I'm moving on. Trump is not POTUS anymore. Marxists are now running the Fed. Gov. And they aren't even trying to hide it. There's no point in constantly bringing in the election or the fraud. It's really not needed. All that is needed is paying attention to what is going on NOW.

I agree, however you still have supporters clinging to their delusions about him believing any day Trump will use the military to overthrow Biden and become the leader of the revolution. We need to pull people away from that to those outside the elites in order for any successionist movement to succeed. I am sure the elites would be fine if that happened (Trump) since any revolution and subsequent direction of the country would remain controlled in their hands.

 

[phill4paul]

I am all for everyone's right to armed defense but maybe to think strategically about dealing with an enemy would be to support a disarming the police movement. Problem solved.

I think the right should support defunding the police and embrace private alternatives. If the local populace is against gun control and they are paid by support from locals, maybe they would not be so quick to implement a gun confiscation order.

Might as well ask that we have no further foreign interference. Again that's Chasing the Dragon think. The MOST you can hope for is voting in a county Sheriff that at least gives lip service to the Constitution.

I agree, however you still have supporters clinging to their delusions about him believing any day Trump will use the military to overthrow Biden and become the leader of the revolution. We need to pull people away from that to those outside the elites in order for any successionist movement to succeed. I am sure the elites would be fine if that happened (Trump) since any revolution and subsequent direction of the country would remain controlled in their hands.

Again. NO reason to keep bringing this up. Trumps not President. The Marxists provide the impetus.

 

[TheTexan]

What would a successful revolution even look like? For purely hypothetical purposes.

 

[Contumacious]

I think people have forgotten that Trump built his entire business success on the art of the con. Why people think it would be any different after he became President is kind of surprising.

There is voter fraud but was there proof that it was enough to actually throw the election? I am not talking about some nonsense people get from some vlogger on youtube doing it for views for profit or Alex Jones. He lost something like 40 out of 54 cases. Where is the actual evidence that has not already been debunked?

B U L L S H I T

HE DIDN'T LOSE, WE LOST.

The "courts" did NOT look a at the evidence - did not consider the merits

The Low Life M O T H E R F U C K E R S now act like they have a mandate to

steal the election

Disarm us

then persecute us because their guilt ridden consciences are making them paranoic


.

 

[TheTexan]

B U L L S H I T

HE DIDN'T LOSE, WE LOST.

The "courts" did NOT look a at the evidence - did not consider the merits

The Low Life M O T H E R F U C K E R S now act like they have a mandate to

steal the election

Disarm us

then persecute us because their guilt ridden consciences are making them paranoic


.

They know they stole it. They just don't care.

The same way they know that taking your guns is unconstitutional. They just don't care.