Who will win the 2024 presidential election? Harris or Trump

[mtr1979]

Simple question who will the 2024 presidential election? I'm not asking who you are voting for or who you want to win.

I believe Harris will win the election because I have eyes and I know how things work. If it was a fair race my money would be on Trump, but it isn't. After what happened in 2016 they can never let something like that happen again.

Trump also lost to a guy with dementia in 2020. They have been trying to derail Trump for years with various court cases and they have tried to kill him twice. So why would fixing an election be out of the question?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Poll needs a "I have no frippin clue" option.

 

[mtr1979]

Poll needs a "I have no frippin clue" option.

Fence sitters are the worst.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Fence sitters are the worst.

It isn't a question of being a fence sitter.

I honestly have no freaking clue.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The lesser evil is Trump and the people who are supporting him, as opposed to Harris and the people supporting her. And of course at the highest levels of the global plutocracy, they control both sides.

That being said, in a fair election Trump wins. With what we have in reality, it's a toss up.

And if Trump wins, it's a certainty that there will be mayhem, arson, riots, looting and violence in all of the usual places, by the usual cast of characters.

 

[mtr1979]

It isn't a question of being a fence sitter.

I honestly have no freaking clue.

Fair enough, but it is weird on this forum everyone has an opinion. If I put up a poll asking a ridiculous question people answer in droves, but when I ask a serious question that has real world consequences everyone is silent. I hope I'm wrong and Trump wins and the day after the election everyone can rub it in my face that I was wrong. Then again I'm on here for actually exchange of ideas and trying to learn things. I'm not on here to have clout.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Democrats will steal this election just like they did the last one. They know damn well people aren't going to lift a finger to prevent it.

 

[mtr1979]

The lesser evil is Trump and the people who are supporting him, as opposed to Harris and the people supporting her. And of course at the highest levels of the global plutocracy, they control both sides.

That being said, in a fair election Trump wins. With what we have in reality, it's a toss up.

And if Trump wins, it's a certainty that there will be mayhem, arson, riots, looting and violence in all of the usual places, by the usual cast of characters.

It isn't a toss up Harris will somehow win the majority of the swing states. Then the narrative will be how she tore the heart out of out of Maga and ended the cancer.

 

[mtr1979]

Democrats will steal this election just like they did the last one. They know damn well people aren't going to lift a finger to prevent it.

If you even say anything about it you will face lawsuits.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Fair enough, but it is weird on this forum everyone has an opinion.

That is my opinion.

I have no clue...this whole cluster fuck is a slow motion train wreck...I can't tell what will happen next...the bullshit's piling up so fast you need wings to stay above it, you can't believe a word of what anybody says. Suffice to say I've steeled myself for everything from guerilla warfare to the second coming of Christ and everything in between.

I still say it's a 50/50 toss up that Trump is assassinated before inauguration day, and who knows what the ramifications of that would be, if any.

Sorry if being able to tell you my favorite movie or food or car is easier to answer right at this juncture, but at least I told you the truth.

 

[mtr1979]

That is my opinion.

I have no clue...this whole cluster $#@! is a slow motion train wreck...I can't tell what will happen next...the bull$#@!'s piling up so fast you need wings to stay above it, you can't believe a word of what anybody says. Suffice to say I've steeled myself for everything from guerilla warfare to the second coming of Christ and everything in between.

I still say it's a 50/50 toss up that Trump is assassinated before inauguration day, and who knows what the ramifications of that would be, if any.

Sorry if being able to tell you my favorite movie or food or car is easier to answer right at this juncture, but at least I told you the truth.

I expect more from someone with over 100,000 forum posts and has been on this forum since 2007. How do you not see that the outcome has already been decided? At this point the election is nothing more than a humiliation ritual.

 

[CaptUSA]

Fence sitters are the worst.

Yeah, I have no clue either.

I think we all believe that in a fair election, Trump would win. But we all also know that fair elections have been outlawed.

I always thought that it came down to plausibility. Can they plausibly steal the election and have a majority of people believe the outcome? Because if so, they'll do it. The polling is really close, but I think plausibility is starting to fade away. Voting has already started and from most accounts Trump is outperforming. Will people really believe that Kamala makes that up on the final election day?? They may choose to allow Trump his victory while ensuring he is hamstrung on appointments and any other official acts. Or, they could just murder him - who knows?

But I'm also of the belief that they may not be in total control of the cheating. They've opened the door to all sorts of manipulation with lots of avenues for bad actors to exploit. We may see some things that are completely implausible, which would cause them to suspend the results in certain states - driving up the skepticism even more.

Whatever happens, I think we're in for a wild ride. I hope we all have properly prepared, because people do some really strange things during panics.

 

[Matt Collins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpKfUvu0uDQ​

 

[Todd]

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[Dr.3D]

Poll needs a third option.

Trump will win but Harris will be president.

 

[acptulsa]

Poll needs a third option.

Trump will win but Harris will be president.

And a fourth. Trump will win, but Harris will "win", but ultimately Trump will be installed.

 

[Dr.3D]

And a fourth. Trump will win, but Harris will "win", but ultimately Trump will be installed.

Well, voting is pretty complicated these days.

 

[mtr1979]

Yeah, I have no clue either.

I think we all believe that in a fair election, Trump would win. But we all also know that fair elections have been outlawed.

I always thought that it came down to plausibility. Can they plausibly steal the election and have a majority of people believe the outcome? Because if so, they'll do it. The polling is really close, but I think plausibility is starting to fade away. Voting has already started and from most accounts Trump is outperforming. Will people really believe that Kamala makes that up on the final election day?? They may choose to allow Trump his victory while ensuring he is hamstrung on appointments and any other official acts. Or, they could just murder him - who knows?

But I'm also of the belief that they may not be in total control of the cheating. They've opened the door to all sorts of manipulation with lots of avenues for bad actors to exploit. We may see some things that are completely implausible, which would cause them to suspend the results in certain states - driving up the skepticism even more.

Whatever happens, I think we're in for a wild ride. I hope we all have properly prepared, because people do some really strange things during panics.

Nice cope whatever helps you sleep at night. They don't care if you believe the election results are legit. In fact if you believe the results are fake even better it completes the humiliation ritual.

 

[mtr1979]

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Yet at the end of the night hundreds of thousands of votes will come in and all of them will be for Harris.

 

[mtr1979]

Poll needs a third option.

Trump will win but Harris will be president.

So a Harris win, it is a pretty basic question with two possible outcomes.