Who to vote for now? Bernie or Trump?

screw that. Until Rand drops, he's got my support. Then you can have your circle jerk with Trump or Bernie or Hillary or who ever.

Hope it works out for ya.

He still has my support, but I call it like I see it. Being a realist is my MO, even if it's not sunshine and roses.

I would hate a Bernie or Trumpie presidency, for sure. I just feel they are such horrible candidates, that long term it would be good for rekindling the liberty movement which is clearly dead in this country.
 
The person that does not talk about trying to take away peoples guns.

In other words none of the above. Trump called for a total ban on assault weapons. He's only pretending to be pro gun. Sad that some suckers are falling for it even in the liberty movement.
 
You're asking me to choose between two socialists. I refuse to be apart of destroying this country.

Get it right. Donald Trump is not a socialist. He's a fascist. Socialists believe in taking your money and spreading it around. Fascists believe in taking your money and keeping it for themselves or giving it to their cronies. A socialist will say "You own too much land on your family farm. Divide it up to the peasants." A fascist will say "We're not getting enough tax base from your family farm. Give it to the real estate developer."

Edit: But yeah, overall you're right. Neither respects individual private property and isn't worthy of a liberty vote. But then just about everyone else sucks as well that's running besides Rand and Trump and Bernie at least don't want a war with Russia over Syria.
 
If Republicans nominate anyone but Rand, I'll vote for either the Libertarian Party candidate, Constitutional Party candidate or write someone in.

- ML
 
I've never understood the tendency of voters to elevate their preference based on their candidate’s or some other candidate's perceived likelihood to win or lose.

On the day a new elephant is born, the training method of East Asian “mahouts” has been to tie one end of a thick rope to the elephant’s neck or leg, and the other to a stake planted deeply in the ground. From birth the young elephant struggles and fights to free itself, day after day, month after month, and year after year. But the overwhelming rope eventually conquers the young elephant, as at some point in it’s life, it gives up, stops resisting, and stops fighting. From that day forth, the trainer replaces the thick rope with a thin string, and the elephant continues living under the belief that it cannot defeat the rope. Whenever the elephant feels the familiar tightening of the string (albeit much softer), it is reminded of the rope, and gently moves back to the center of it’s radius.
 
I can see from all of the negative rep I've received, this thread was not a good idea. I would like to formally apologize to all RPF members and ask to have this thread removed by the mods. I was already having a bad day and it got worse for me when rand only took 5th.

I am not a troll, a crook, a sock puppet; not a trump supporter or Bernie supporter. I am a Paul supporter to the bitter end and have been for 10 years.

I didn't put much thought behind the premise of this thread. I want what's truly best for the liberty movement and was misguided into thinking the nation crumbling under Bernie or trump would taken reawaken America to its roots. I have since been proven wrong and I conceit that
 
Get it right. Donald Trump is not a socialist. He's a fascist. Socialists believe in taking your money and spreading it around. Fascists believe in taking your money and keeping it for themselves or giving it to their cronies. A socialist will say "You own too much land on your family farm. Divide it up to the peasants." A fascist will say "We're not getting enough tax base from your family farm. Give it to the real estate developer."

Edit: But yeah, overall you're right. Neither respects individual private property and isn't worthy of a liberty vote. But then just about everyone else sucks as well that's running besides Rand and Trump and Bernie at least don't want a war with Russia over Syria.
I've called trump a facist before but I'm not sure what he is. He supports many socialist programs such as gov. healthcare but at the same time he supports bailouts for his buddies and other facist policies. He attempts to merge the two
 
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