Who plans on joining the Free State Project in New Hampshire this year?

[FrankRep]

Free State Project - New Hampshire
http://freestateproject.org/


I would really like to see this experiment succeed and gain enough power to control the politics of New Hampshire. In order for the general population to take Libertarianism seriously, they'll need to see it in action. The Free State State project can provide that framework.

So. Who plans on moving to New Hampshire this year?

 

[Voluntary Man]

NH's biggest problem (re: the FSP) is the southern part of the state. Much like northern VA, it perverts the politics of the rest of the state. However, NH may be the biggest beneficiary of this campaign.

 

[BuddyRey]

The biggest thing holding me back from a move to NH right now is their oppressive property tax. I'm staggered and frankly amazed that with all the large-scale goals thusfar achieved by the FSP movement, lowering or even abolishing property taxation has not been among them.

 

[ZENemy]

I love the idea.

Ob@ma will probably declare NH a threat to the country and use his new executive powers to seize the state.

 

[Crotale]

Er, not me. Although I reckon Americans should jump on board immediately.

 

[Crotale]

The biggest thing holding me back from a move to NH right now is their oppressive property tax. I'm staggered and frankly amazed that with all the large-scale goals thusfar achieved by the FSP movement, lowering or even abolishing property taxation has not been among them.

There are creative ways of avoiding or at least reducing that.

 

[BuddyRey]

There are creative ways of avoiding or at least reducing that.

Well I did see that one video where Ian Freeman paid his property taxes in pennies. But I don't think that did much other than to severely inconvenience the clerk and hold up her line.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The biggest thing holding me back from a move to NH right now is their oppressive property tax. I'm staggered and frankly amazed that with all the large-scale goals thusfar achieved by the FSP movement, lowering or even abolishing property taxation has not been among them.

We're working on it.

The best thing to do is get involved in town issues, make sure that the selectmen aren't writing blanks checks each time some cop, fireman, or schoolteacher comes wandering in, wheezing that they need a new 30 million dollar facility.

Also, be very careful about what town you might want to move to.

The tax rates vary wildly from town to town.

http://www.revenue.nh.gov/munc_prop/2011PropertyTaxRatesRelatedData.htm

It varies from $1 per thousand to over $30 per thousand of assessed value.

Most places are in the $15 to $20 range.

Which is, of course, $1500 to $2000 per year on a home assessed at $100,000.

Which, considering that you pay basically no other taxes on income or purchases, it's a bargain, I think.

 

[rhelwig]

Well I did see that one video where Ian Freeman paid his property taxes in pennies. But I don't think that did much other than to severely inconvenience the clerk and hold up her line.

More than just inconvenience a clerk, it makes the folks working on reducing government seem more normal and thus more acceptable.

Where I came from I was pretty much the most radical guy around. Here in NH I'm pretty normal, especially when compared to some of the more "interesting" folks.

If you're into politics, there's a lot of towns here where you can run for local office unopposed just by showing up. A few years ago I was volunteering as a reporter for a local paper and I went in to the town office on a Friday afternoon to see who had signed up to run. There were at least 3 positions where no one had signed up yet, so I did. Easy win.

Getting on town budget committees is usually pretty easy, and you can have a lot of influence there.

 

[WilliamShrugged]

I just moved to Idaho last year but i definetly will keep an eye on NH and if things continue and as i build up my savings and resume i will be heading there.

 

[Crotale]

Well I did see that one video where Ian Freeman paid his property taxes in pennies. But I don't think that did much other than to severely inconvenience the clerk and hold up her line.

LOL No, but I think if you're inventive you stand a chance.

Besides, I would rather have my money stolen from me in the form of property tax than an income tax. The ideal though, of course, is no tax. You participating in the FSP could help make that happen.

 

[Pericles]

The biggest thing holding me back from a move to NH right now is their oppressive property tax. I'm staggered and frankly amazed that with all the large-scale goals thusfar achieved by the FSP movement, lowering or even abolishing property taxation has not been among them.

That ^

 

[Keith and stuff]

NH's biggest problem (re: the FSP) is the southern part of the state. Much like northern VA, it perverts the politics of the rest of the state. However, NH may be the biggest beneficiary of this campaign.

Southern NH isn't something holding the FSP or liberty in NH back. Property taxes in southern NH tend to be higher on average than property taxes in central and northern NH, because the people in southern NH want them higher. So, it takes more effort to live an extremely low tax lifestyle in southern NH than the rest of the state. The same is true for zoning and planning regulations.

When it comes to getting good people in leadership positions in the GOP or elected to office, it isn't any harder in southern NH, though. For example, Ron Paul won 8 towns in Cheshire County, which borders MA. In fact, the MA border area east of Nashua all the way to the ocean is one of the most Republican parts of NH. Lots of the people that live there are Republicans that left MA. They tend to not mind high property taxes and like suburban living (after all they feel, they live in the safest place in the US, with the highest quality of life and it has no general sales tax, no personal income tax and property taxes are less than what they were spending in MA.) When it comes to electing state Reps., they often elect libertarian Republicans. They would elect a lot more libertarian Republicans too, if more ran. Some of those towns pretty much only elect Republicans as state Reps. We know how to train you to win in NH. We have that part down. We just need more libertarian Republicans to get involved either with the GOP there or move there and get involved with the GOP. Having 90 or so libertarian Republican state Reps. is great but within a few years, I don't see why we couldn't have 150 if we just had more movers.

 

[tfurrh]

Have there ever been any Bigfoot sightings in NH? <----- potential deciding factor

 

[Schiff_FTW]

The biggest thing holding me back from a move to NH right now is their oppressive property tax. I'm staggered and frankly amazed that with all the large-scale goals thusfar achieved by the FSP movement, lowering or even abolishing property taxation has not been among them.

I guess it's all relative. Compared to where I live in CT the property taxes in most of NH are incredibly reasonable. Plus they don't have all the other taxes CT has.

 

[Crotale]

When it comes to electing state Reps., they often elect libertarian Republicans. They would elect a lot more libertarian Republicans too, if more ran. Some of those towns pretty much only elect Republicans as state Reps. We know how to train you to win in NH. We have that part down. We just need more libertarian Republicans to get involved either with the GOP there or move there and get involved with the GOP. Having 90 or so libertarian Republican state Reps. is great but within a few years, I don't see why we couldn't have 150 if we just had more movers.

Are you a candidate or representative yourself Keith? You're quite eloquent and seem pretty well-read, you seem ideal.

 

[Crotale]

Have there ever been any Bigfoot sightings in NH? <----- potential deciding factor

Um, yes. Lots.

 

[bolil]

I love the idea.

Ob@ma will probably declare NH a threat to the country and use his new executive powers to seize the state.

Or perhaps New Hampshire is the barn they are herding us into. Don't be surprized when the door shuts and you begin to smell gas. Just food for thought.

 

[muzzled dogg]

Moved right before the nh primary

 

[TheTexan]

Or perhaps New Hampshire is the barn they are herding us into. Don't be surprized when the door shuts and you begin to smell gas. Just food for thought.

Remind me to carry armor piercing rounds. That should be able to shoot through the wooden doors, methinks.