Who or what is the establishment

[twomp]

Instead of being vague, I'd go a step further and add everyone who voted for NDAA. I honestly feel no honest American who grew up learning about the Constitution would vote away another Americans right to due process. Then I'll add Karl Rove, The Koch brothers, The Bush family, The Clinton family, Grover Norquist, George Soros, Roger Ailes, Rubert Murdoch? I don't know much about George Soros because I loathe Glen Beck and Beck seemed to be the one that had a war on Soros. I guess you can add all the radio guys too? Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Levin. Man there is so much to add. I would also suspect there is some sort of hierarchy as well? Not all establishment are created equal you know. Someone should make a flow chart lol.... Oh also can't forget the bankers. Lloyd Blankfein (CEO Goldman Sachs), Jamie Dimon (CEO J.P Morgan, Board member of the New York Federal Reserve), Timothy Geitner (U.S. Treasury), Larry Summers (Goldman Sachs).... Man it's a big list.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Who or what is the establishment?

"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex."

 

[mosquitobite]

Instead of being vague, I'd go a step further and add everyone who voted for NDAA. I honestly feel no honest American who grew up learning about the Constitution would vote away another Americans right to due process.

Yep. If the men/women who voted for NDAA aren't establishment, they're certainly getting paid or bribed by them.

My take on "the establishment" is the CFR or Bilderburg Group.

Or those who get the invite to Bohemian Grove

 

[QuickZ06]

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This.

 

[Verrater]

Neoconservatives are only one faction. There are more.

I paint that term with a very wide brush. As in Wilsonianism + Keynesianism. But if its beyond that i'd like to hear it.

 

[georgiaboy]

All those folks who freaked out when Wikileaks published.

 

[risk_reward]

I was at the MN state convention. As far as I can tell, WE are the establishment.

 

[downunder]

It looks like there is no definitive definition -- there are a lot of entities that are corrupt and complicit in destroying our liberties, but we don't know who is leading the charge against us. I would say trying to understand that is fairly important.

There has to be someone setting an agenda and politicians will do as they're ordered. That is clear in the manner that congress votes, it's clear in the way the media skews the facts and trivializes important matters. If the major share holders for every major media organisation, big oil, big pharmaceutical, military, entertainment are always owned by these same four companies:

State Street Corporation, Vanguard Group, BlackRock and FMR (Fidelity).


Think about it, MSNBC, Fox, CNN, ABC, whoever you can think of that's trying to stifle the revolution are owned by the above four companies. Companies like Coca Cola, Apple, Sony, Verizon, IBM, Cisco, HP, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, JP Morgan -- all of them, the same pattern.

I believe that's what Ron Paul is up against, that is what the people of the world are up against.....