Who is your second choice after Ron?

[libertyguy]

Pat Buchanan (btw, the new TNR article said Ron Paul was going to run in 92, and decided to support Pat instead when he ran. I found that funny, acting as if it was an insult.)

I have often thought that RP's best chance for success would be Pat Buchanan as his VP running mate. Could you imagine the strength of that ticket!

 

[JMann]

I have often thought that RP's best chance for success would be Pat Buchanan as his VP running mate. Could you imagine the strength of that ticket!

It would be portrayed as the anti-semitic, racist, pro-Nazi ticket, homosexual bashing ticket. As much as I like Pat Buchanan and got a picture with him in 1992 at a campaign stop at Stone Mountain, Georgia, I don't think his best place would be as a running mate. UN ambassador or Chief of Staff fo sho.

 

[freedom-maniac]

Other than Dr. Paul:

1. Kucinich
2. Obama
3. Edwards
4. John McCain
5. Duncan Hunter
6. Mike Gravel
7. Mike Huckabee
8. Fred Thompson
9. Mitt Romney
10. Hillary/Rudy (their isn't really any difference between them)

and of course Indies and 3rd parties are mixed in there.

 

[ErikBlack]

If Ron Paul didn't exist I would have to vote for a Democrat. The philosophy of libertarianism has always appealed to me and I would love to try it. But it hasn't been proven. It exists only in our minds, not in practice. There is a chance that once implemented it could be a complete and utter failure. Many political strategies that sound good on paper simply don't work in real life. I am amazed by people who are absolutely convinced that this is the solution to all of our problems based on theoretical assumptions and a very limited application in the 18th and 19th centuries, which was a far different time. It reminds me of socialists who are so convinced that socialism is the way and the light just because it sounds good on paper. I say lets try it, by all means, but keep an open mind and a wary eye.

 

[PC_for_Paul]

If Ron Paul didn't exist I would have to vote for a Democrat. The philosophy of libertarianism has always appealed to me and I would love to try it. But it hasn't been proven. It exists only in our minds, not in practice. There is a chance that once implemented it could be a complete and utter failure. Many political strategies that sound good on paper simply don't work in real life. I am amazed by people who are absolutely convinced that this is the solution to all of our problems based on theoretical assumptions and a very limited application in the 18th and 19th centuries, which was a far different time. It reminds me of socialists who are so convinced that socialism is the way and the light just because it sounds good on paper. I say lets try it, by all means, but keep an open mind and a wary eye.

It would only be failure if we turned as corrupt as the current system.

My second choice?

Leave the country and move to Belize. I plan to make a trip down this summer to start looking for a place.

I don't think everyone understands how important this election is, looking back it will have been our last chance to change direction. This great country will collapse, just like the Soviet Union. Our system is just a little less corrupt than theirs was and it bought us another 15 to 20 years, the clock is ticking.

The extent the dollar has been devauled will only come to light once we lose our "reserve currency" status, that is underway now. Once foriegn banks feel the need to reduce dollar holdings( oil for euros?), all those dollars will need to be removed from the system, sending the dollar down to .4 (against a basket of currencies ticker $usd) and sending interest rates higher than the late 70's.

The next recession will make history, we will fall while others muddle by, the rest of the world will find they are just fine without us.

and so marks the end of the great American empire, the world will be left with no more "super" powers.

 

[painter4Ron Paul]

only Dr. Paul

okey dokkey

 

[snaFU]

If Ron Paul didn't exist I would have to vote for a Democrat. The philosophy of libertarianism has always appealed to me and I would love to try it. But it hasn't been proven. It exists only in our minds, not in practice. There is a chance that once implemented it could be a complete and utter failure. Many political strategies that sound good on paper simply don't work in real life. I am amazed by people who are absolutely convinced that this is the solution to all of our problems based on theoretical assumptions and a very limited application in the 18th and 19th centuries, which was a far different time. It reminds me of socialists who are so convinced that socialism is the way and the light just because it sounds good on paper. I say lets try it, by all means, but keep an open mind and a wary eye.

Libertarianism is the ideal that human beings take responsibility and get things done themselves instead of looking to the nanny state government. The shortcomings of socialism and government have prevailed throughout centuries. Also you fail to understand libertarianism doesn't preach anything utopian as socialists do so its far from what they perceive their ideology to be. Central planning has failed countlessly and governments and democracy have been proven to be broken king after king and president after president.

I find that libertarianism is actually pretty practical and statism is ideological. The funny thing is people who come from leftist ideologies fail to realize is they are so trustworthy of governments which are really just compromised of individuals seeking to fulfill their self-interest the same as us. People aren't perfect and people making decisions for millions of people doesn't work. Problems are solved by local action not by the iron fist of the state.

Look at the incredible ineptness of all these bureaucracies during the Katrina incident? Welfare was made in order to combat poverty well guess what there sure as hell is more poor people and the welfare rolls are still coming in! Economic Stability with the Fed? sure, its working thats why the housing market is in a depression.

Limited application? Oh so human beings interacting can't get things done? How does a central power make billions of citizens happy? How does it solve problems?
If you study history there have been many examples of how free societies have prevailed over statist societies.

I don't understand it wouldn't work for people to have freedom in the 21st century. I didn't know we were that incapable of realizing responsibility for ourselves. I guess bureaucrats can help us by mandating insurance policies for us all so we can have costs driven up. Want free healthcare sure we will start the quota machine. Iraq War? uh, first we will need to bomb pakistan and then wait until 2012 to quit a war which we have no goal for.

 

[CaptBookbag]

I'm appalled by how many people are saying they would vote for a Democrat.

Are you not listening to Dr. Paul when he speaks? He's a conservative. He is THE conservative candidate. The democrats are the antithesis of that. They're against the war because its unpopular, not because its their foreign policy.

"Not to be a republican at 20 is proof of want of heart; to be one at 30 is proof of want of head." - François Guizot

 

[theskaven]

I will write in Ron Paul... unless Hillary is nominated. In that case, I will hold my nose and pick whoever is running against her. Anybody but her, and I do mean ANYBODY.

 

[IndieRocker79]

First and foremost, this country was founded upon the libertarian ideal. The word "libertarian" may be fairly new in terms of political theory, but the founding fathers were mostly libertarian if you put them on today's political compass. And this country worked just fine until the big bankers took over in the early 1900's! Had FDR's policies been set to phase out after 5 years or 10 years or so as well, we'd probably be a much better position than we are now. And had we not gotten our nose stuck into every foreign nation's business policing the world with an American Empire, we also would probably not be in the miserable shape we're in today. None of these things were laid out by our founding fathers. Why? Because our founding fathers were libertarian. So to say you have "yet to see it work" means you have lost faith in the US Constitution as a whole!

Also, to be making posts about "who is your second choice?" this early in the race is concession! You have given up on Dr. Paul and on the rEVOLution! Stop spreading your negative propaganda here people, I'm not buying into it! This race is a LONG way from being over, and it's getting decided at the convention, not by a small handful of primaries and caucuses 9 months in advance!

 

[SimpleName]

i'd write in ron paul.

obama is by far the most likable of the other candidates, but that doesn't change the fact that he's just another one of THEM.

Might as well. We should all write in Ron paul and see what happens.

 

[LinuxUser269]

i'd write in ron paul.

 

[Zotde75]

Second choice after Paul? Like, if I couldn't vote for him for some reason?

I'd say Dennis Kucinich. Shares a lot of Paul's views and isn't a criminal like the rest of them.

 

[Libertyiswinning]

MY GOD .....

I can't believe some of the stuff i'm reading in here. I guess the MSM is doing a great job at brainwashing ppl. Some ppl here have some great answers. Others answers are absolutely frightening.

Fred Thompson was a lobbyist for 18 YEARS - bad, very bad
Obama is a member of the CFR
Hillary- CFR
Edwards - CFR
Huck -CFR, and taking foreign policy advice from Haas
Romney- Idk about CFR but, we know his foreign policy is the same as the rest of the neocons
Gooliani- need I say anymore?(not to mention him being famous for wearing dresses)CFR
McCain- Wants to open our borders for everyone to come(how is this good national defence?)

Even Kucinich has one problem, IMO. He is against the 2nd amendment(right to protect ourselves from oppressive government with guns) But, good besides that
Gravel is OK as far as I know, correct me if i'm wrong. Seems honest.

CFR has had a plan since atleast the 1980's to suspend the American Constitution incase of an event they deem fitting. And don't even say i'm a conspiracy theorist without researching.

Someone mentioned Cynthia McKinney. I think she is honest and would be an EXCELLENT VP to Paul. She is tough, she is african american, and she is a woman. Perfect.

Ron Paul is my only choice.

And my opinion is, this is a bad thread to make. It is like saying, or implanting the idea that Ron doesn't win. DON'T DO THAT HERE. IT HAS NEGATIVE EFFECTS. ty

 

[vinwal]

Write in Paul/Kucinich

 

[PaultheSaint]

write in here

 

[Djentrify]

ill stay true to the topic and list who I would pick in order if Ron Paul never existed.

We all know we are going to write in Ron Paul no matter what, thats obvious but ask yourself who you would vote for if he didn't exist.

My list in order of first to last:

Fred Thompson
Mitt Romney
Mike Huckabee
Edwards
Obama
Mccain
Guiliani
Hillary

Id pick 9iu11iani first, Ive always wanted to live in a post apocalyptic wasteland

In order of least evil to most thats my list also, but Hillary and Giuliani would be swapped.

If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination I'll most likely vote Libertarian or possibly the Constitutional Party.

 

[spudea]

I'm writing in Ron Paul. If he doesn't get the nomination, the first and only time the media gives him a fair shake will be the bittersweet moment that they announce that Ron Paul received a record number of write in votes.

What makes you think that it would ever be announced? You either choose between a giant douche or a turd sandwich or your vote is trashed.

Me personally will be voting democrat, then applying for citizen ship in another country.

 

[Akus]

Probably the Libertarian candidate.

same

 

[fmontez]

Second choice after Paul? Like, if I couldn't vote for him for some reason?

I'd say Dennis Kucinich. Shares a lot of Paul's views and isn't a criminal like the rest of them.

I keep reading this comment, over and over, shaking my head as drool comes out of my mouth... what planet do we live on?