Who is your second choice after Ron?

[piotr1]

death?

 

[D B Branyers]

No one.

 

[Thomas Paine]

I'm writing in Ron Paul for the General Election. The RNC and GOP establishment have betrayed the conservative principles by supporting a platform of promoting policies leading to an increased national debt, increased federal government, increased federal expenditures, more unfunded state mandates, spreading democracy by crusade, etc. If Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater were alive today, they would shed a tear at how the neocon hijackers of the Republican Party have obliterated its conservative principles...then they would get steaming mad and run those RINOs out of the GOP and retake this party and restore it to its true principles.

 

[tfelice]

So basically the sentiment here is "Ron Paul or nothing". You know if the Reagan supporters did that in 1968, we would have had Hubert Humphrey as POTUS.

 

[pcosmar]

So basically the sentiment here is "Ron Paul or nothing". You know if the Reagan supporters did that in 1968, we would have had Hubert Humphrey as POTUS.

So
Whats your point.
If not Ron we are screwed because they ALL SUCK .

 

[fmontez]

So basically the sentiment here is "Ron Paul or nothing". You know if the Reagan supporters did that in 1968, we would have had Hubert Humphrey as POTUS.

This forum is not really representative of most Ron Paul supporters... at least not in my experience. There is a very vocal fringe of 3rd party people who are... unique. Trust me it gets old keeping them on their leashes. It's is regular at rallies to actually have to send some of them home, to protect the name/stature of Dr. Paul.

The point being that Dr. Paul is a Republican, and I know in my heart he would not run as a 3rd party candidate again, because he knows that putting a Marxist into office would destroy the USA, frankly we can't afford 4 years of Clinton /Obama. So if you are looking for real hard data, this forum is not a good source.

 

[tfelice]

So
Whats your point.
If not Ron we are screwed because they ALL SUCK .

Many of us in the conservative movement (I was too young at the time) thought Nixon sucked, but we compromised for the sake of advancing the agenda. Nixon was better than Humphrey by a mile. This allowed us to take a serious run at the nomination in 1976 against a sitting President, and then eventually win in 1980. Without the compromise in 68, 80 might never have happened.

 

[Thomas Paine]

So basically the sentiment here is "Ron Paul or nothing". You know if the Reagan supporters did that in 1968, we would have had Hubert Humphrey as POTUS.

Let's see, Richard Nixon expanded the Vietnam conflict, took the U.S. off the gold standard, enacted price controls, and committed Watergate. I have to tell you, the country probably could have done without Richard Nixon even if it meant putting up with Hubert Humphrey in the White House for only four years.

 

[fmontez]

I like the orginal question.. to bad so many are not willing to answer it... at least seriously. I mean if you really support Dr. Paul you are not going to be listing off Dems/socialists... but there must be some interesting Republicans and 3rd party suggestions out there.

 

[flahavin]

The more I think of it, IF (and thats a big IF) Ron Paul doesn't win, I think I'll move to Iraq. Hell, all our tax dollars are there.

 

[pcosmar]

There are NO Conservatives running on the GOP ticket other than Ron Paul.
The GOP has been sold out long ago.
I am an Independent, a Conservative with libertarian leanings. In the past I have gone with the Republican , but NO MORE.
There is no difference between "R" and "D".

 

[tfelice]

Let's see, Richard Nixon expanded the Vietnam conflict, took the U.S. off the gold standard, enacted price controls, and committed Watergate. I have to tell you, the country probably could have done without Richard Nixon even if it meant putting up with Hubert Humphrey in the White House for only four years.

Nixon wasn't the greatest mind you but HHH was far worse. The worst Republican is many times better than the best Democrat. The fact is the compromise helped to establish Reagan's position in the GOP rather than tarnish it. He grew in popularity, spread the message of Conservatism and eventually won. If he would have went to a third party, and snubbed the GOP he would likely have never had those chances.

Politics is about compromise. An "all or nothing" mentality in this case will get you absolutely nothing, and could do damage to future endeavors.

 

[tfelice]

There is no difference between "R" and "D".

Looking at a generic Republican vs generic Democrat I see this:

Democrat will raise taxes. Republican will lower them. Yes I want them eliminated entirely, but that isn't happening this time.

Democrat will socialize medicine. Republican will tinker with the system, but keep it basically private. Yes I want government out of it entirely, but that isn't happening this time.

Democrat will grant amnesty. Republican won't (except McCain of course). Yes I want the troops home and on the border, but that isn't happening right now.

Democrat will pass more gun control. Republican won't. Yes, I want all gun control laws repealed but that isn't happening now.

Democrat will bow down to the UN. Republican won't. Yes, I want us out, but that isn't happening now.

Democrat will appoint liberal judges. Republican will appoint originalists.

So yes, there is a difference. Is a generic Republican perfect? No, but from where I sit they are 1000 times better than any Democrat.

 

[bonium]

Write in Ron Paul...time for the GOP to be punished for its behavior!

I realize that means Hillary or Obama but thats not on me, its on the GOP!

 

[tfelice]

Write in Ron Paul...time for the GOP to be punished for its behavior!

I realize that means Hillary or Obama but thats not on me, its on the GOP!

Obama or Clinton punishes us all when the illegals are pouring in moreso than ever, we are waiting in long lines to get a check up at the doctor, our taxes are raised and deductions reduced to pay for it all, even more secular humanism and political correctness is shoved down the throats of our kids, we are paying a global carbon tax and U.S. business fall under U.N. enviromental regulations, we have even more oppressive gun laws, etc, etc, etc.

BTW I don't see the RP support that would go third party or write in having any significance in the general election since the large majority of those who would do so came from third parties or from outside the process anyway. A write in vote from a person who would have voted third party in the first place is a wash.

 

[fmontez]

Politics is about compromise. An "all or nothing" mentality in this case will get you absolutely nothing, and could do damage to future endeavors.

This is perhaps Dr. Pauls only weakness, a nation by defination is a collective and therefore some level of compromise is required.

 

[werdd]

if paul wasnt in the race id likely write my own name in, or thomas jefferson.

 

[pcosmar]

Looking at a generic Republican vs generic Democrat I see this:

Democrat will raise taxes. Republican will lower them. Yes I want them eliminated entirely, but that isn't happening this time.

Democrat will socialize medicine. Republican will tinker with the system, but keep it basically private. Yes I want government out of it entirely, but that isn't happening this time.

Democrat will grant amnesty. Republican won't (except McCain of course). Yes I want the troops home and on the border, but that isn't happening right now.

Democrat will pass more gun control. Republican won't. Yes, I want all gun control laws repealed but that isn't happening now.

Democrat will bow down to the UN. Republican won't. Yes, I want us out, but that isn't happening now.

Democrat will appoint liberal judges. Republican will appoint originalists.

So yes, there is a difference. Is a generic Republican perfect? No, but from where I sit they are 1000 times better than any Democrat.

Wow, you are really brain washed.
Are you paid by the GOP to spread this BULLSHIT.
If you are stupid enough to believe that you will buy anything.
All the present republicans are saying the same thing as the democrats, the Democrates are saying the same thing as the Republicans.
They just word it differently.
They will both follow the CFR roadmap.

 

[fmontez]

Wow, you are really brain washed.
Are you paid by the GOP to spread this BULLSHIT.
If you are stupid enough to believe that you will buy anything.
All the present republicans are saying the same thing as the democrats, the Democrates are saying the same thing as the Republicans.
They just word it differently.
They will both follow the CFR roadmap.

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican so I take offense at you attacking the GOP. Go support Obama.

 

[tfelice]

Wow, you are really brain washed.
Are you paid by the GOP to spread this BULLSHIT.
If you are stupid enough to believe that you will buy anything.
All the present republicans are saying the same thing as the democrats, the Democrates are saying the same thing as the Republicans.
They just word it differently.
They will both follow the CFR roadmap.

You spout Alex Jones rhetoric and I am the one who is brainwashed?