Who is your second choice after Ron?

[snaFU]

I can't support the LP candidate (unless Paul) because that group of purist fuck ups (at the national level) don't deserve anyone's vote. That group is more pathetic than the evangelicals running the RP and the Marxist running the DP.

explain yourself!

 

[Paulitician]

I wouldn't be voting for the "mainstream" candidates (this even includes Kucinich and Gravel)... I'd vote for a 3rd party candidate or no one at all.

 

[Hurricane Bruiser]

I can't vote for a socialist like all the dems running seem to be. I can't vote for someone really pushing the war mentality such as McCain or Guiliani. I can't vote for someone wanting the government to be the nanny police and promote virtue. I can't vote for gun grabbers.

I'm stuck with Ron Paul. Come general election time, I will see.

 

[CraigMcCra]

Fmotnez are you serious. You are more in tune with the neoconservative GOP. How can one not agree with Pauls foriegn policy and agree with his monetary policy. You cant have one without the other. You supporting Thompson or Mitt is all telling. No true Paul supporter can say that the Iraq war and foriegn policy is not a grave concern. By you saying you are the only republican based on todays gop is nieve. If you know history and politics you know Paul is the only traditional Goldwater republican left.

 

[JMann]

Quirks and voting record aside, I believe Obama's appeal comes from the fact that he isn't a stalwart of the establishment to the extent that the other GOP and Dem candidates (Ron and Dennis excluded).

If this is the case why has he be parading establishment Democrat one after the other that are endorsing him. Don't buy into the crap that O! is somehow outside of the establishment. He is firmly entrenched... See John Kerry endorsement.

 

[fmontez]

Fmotnez are you serious. You are more in tune with the neoconservative GOP. How can one not agree with Pauls foriegn policy and agree with his monetary policy. You cant have one without the other. You supporting Thompson or Mitt is all telling. No true Paul supporter can say that the Iraq war and foriegn policy is not a grave concern. By you saying you are the only republican based on todays gop is nieve. If you know history and politics you know Paul is the only traditional Goldwater republican left.

I said the Iraq war is not a great concern of mine, and it isn't.. so yeah I am serious. We have troops all around the world, if it requires us to leave troops in Iraq to win the White House so be it.. we can bring the troops home from everywhere else, work on our economy, and stop future wars/nation building. I am not sure what the right course for Iraq is... I am cautious.

I am conflicted on Iraq... and yes I like President Bush too!!! I think he is honest.. I just don't agree with his decisions. I love Ron Paul, Iraq is not Pauls only message. .. like he has said himself Iraq is the issue that gets lots of attention, but he has a complete platform. He is more than just the anti-war Republican.

 

[JMann]

explain yourself!

The LP has demonstrated no ability to moderate their positions in order to win. They are stuck in a mindset that has destroyed any chance that it will ever be relevant. They have a nominating process that excludes people from participating and leaves it in the hands party hacks which year after year (except 1988) nominate maybe the least qualified person in the country to be president. Michael f'ing Badnarik? You have to be kidding.

This party has managed to turn an ideology that is attractive to about 1/3 of the American population and propel that into a solid .5% of the national vote every four years.

I could go on and on but for a party that has been around for 30 years they have done far less than what the Greens or the Reform Party did in far less time. At the local level the LP has managed some success but that is more in spite of the national party instead of because of it. I would put that group just ahead a bucket of spit as far as usefulness in the national political process.

 

[mrbone]

Really Paul is my only choice of those running for president. If we were in a hypothetical world where Paul was not running then...

Of those in the two major parties: Fred Thompson. He's not good, but he's the only one whose voting record doesn't outright offend me on important issues. I'll vote for a guy who I don't get excited about bout at leadt doesn't offend me since that's a huge improvement over the disgusting creeps we normally get. Lots of folks here like Obama. Here's why I couldn't vote for him. No one really knows what Obama stands for, which tells me he doesn't want us to know what he stands for because it will offend the voters (or he's just an opportunist). My gut feeling on his beliefs is he's probably fairly communist and, based on his current very creepy church membership, probably also a racial bigot. He loses my vote.

Going outside the party, I would probably go for whomever the Libertarian Party nominates if Paul was not running.

Expanding even further to those who are not running: Walter Williams would get my vote if were to run. Heck, Williams might have been my first choice over Paul if he were to run!

 

[flahavin]

Michael Badnarik....As Ron Paul's Running Mate

 

[jmag]

Probably the Libertarian candidate.

ditto

 

[fmontez]

Can't vote for the libertarian so I'll pick the socialist... Sir, please step away from the crack pipe.

I agree!

I have noticed there seems to be a lot fo Marxist Libertarians on this forum... what is up with that? If you are a Socialist one issue voter, i.e. Iraq war, I don't think you would be happy at all with a Ron Paul Presidency.

 

[Killaspike]

ill stay true to the topic and list who I would pick in order if Ron Paul never existed.

We all know we are going to write in Ron Paul no matter what, thats obvious but ask yourself who you would vote for if he didn't exist.

My list in order of first to last:

Fred Thompson
Mitt Romney
Mike Huckabee
Edwards
Obama
Mccain
Guiliani
Hillary

 

[JenaS62]

Nada. Zilch. There is no plan B.

 

[JenaS62]

I have to say, Obama is a very inspiring guy. Beyond that I have no idea what he stands for.

He stands for late term or partial birth abortion. He stands for the patriot act. He stands for illegal aliens and giving away the farm. He stands for higher taxes. Need I go on?

 

[Margo37]

Only Ron Paul, never having once in my lifetime seen an unwavering, honest politician with integrity before. Never seen one truly for "the people". There is no second choice and no second chance, this or nothing.

 

[cska80]

If Ron wasn't in the race, I'd probably be an Obama fan.

How can you go from supporting the constitution in Ron Paul to the Soviet Union in Obama?

 

[spacehabitats]

Mitt Romney

He's not even a close second, but I still think most RP supporters are missing the fact that he is not completely one of THEM and has easily suffered the worst media bias of any of the other Republican candidates.

Don't think so? Prior to the Iowa caucus NPR was characterizing the contest as a test of whether the "Iowa voter could be bought"! I thought I had stumbled on to a Mike Huckabee radio ad! Watch the words used to describe his finishes in the races so far. Second place finishes in Iowa and New Hampshire were "failures", a clear win in Wyoming was completely ignored, his 9% win in Michigan (set up as a "must win") was described as "edging out" their real darling, McCain.

No, he is no Ron Paul. But don't fall into the trap of believing that all the rest are exactly the same.

By the way, I don't mind discussing stuff like this but I think we should really be talking about how we can keep most of the RP movement from fragmenting. We may not agree on everything, but we agree on way too many issues to let our numbers dissolve back into the primordial soup of American politics.

 

[fmontez]

Only Ron Paul, never having once in my lifetime seen an unwavering, honest politician with integrity before. Never seen one truly for "the people". There is no second choice and no second chance, this or nothing.

Yes, RP only weakness is he is to honest and has too much integrity. It makes him a great man, but will make a run for Presidency very difficult.

Here is my list for second if RP fails

Fred
Mitt
Huck (yes, I know, but he does make my christians inners feel all warm and fussy)
McCain
End of List: being Pro-life is a req to being President (hell to being a human being.)

 

[JaylieWoW]

Put down another, writing-in-Ron on the list.

I'm done supporting anyone who doesn't support upholding the constitution explicitly. In my youth I thought the government was a good thing and that we needed it. Now that I'm older I see how much trouble it's caused. I mean really, what kind of @#%$'d up people trying pass an increase to 40 cents in FEDERAL gasoline tax. If we haven't figured out what's wrong with this country by now, I'm starting to believe it ain't gonna happen.

Sorry, I'm reeling from the FEDERAL gas tax increase. STOP WASTING OUR !@#%$@#% MONEY and then FORCING US TO PAY MORE. Man I'm fed up today. Further, there are talks about LINKING THE !@%$@#% gas tax to INFLATION!!?? OMG did they really suggest that??!! Are Americans THAT #!%@#$% stupid??!! So let's see, they need more money for war/welfare so they print some which in turn lowers the value of the dollar (or causes inflation) and THEN they RAISE the gas tax because of all the new money that was created??!!! Is anyone else as P-O'd as I am about this... man... I don't think I've ever gone on a tirade like this on these boards but I'm as mad as I've ever been.

 

[Iowa4Paul]

It;s Either Paul or a plane ticket.