Who is your favorite non Paul/Amash/Massie Congressman?

[heavenlyboy34]

Ugh, this melodramatic crap you always post makes me want to vomit.

Yeah, but he's just 18, so I cut him some slack. :o

 

[Christian Liberty]

Yeah, but he's just 18, so I cut him some slack. :o

Once again I'm going to call you out on this... what's wrong with what I said?

 

[TaftFan]

The second part kind of rings hollow when you consider the first part:



What do you think he was saying "Yes" too? That he wanted Dunkin Donuts? That he was going to watch the football game on Sunday? You know he was saying he believed Snowden was a traitor. Which means he doesn't know the constitution or common sense.



Oh really, Senator Lee. "Breaking a whole bunch of laws" (FF's translation: Words scribbled on a piece of paper and backed up by threats of lethal violence by the local mafia game) is a problem?

This line of thinking is why Hitler and Stalin weren't opposed by their own people and their own military more than they were. Mike Lee is a statist shill.

When a guy gains access to millions of pieces of data and heads to China, it looks like they are a traitor. But Lee didn't pass judgement on him definitively.

Somebody who is actively working to declassify information is not a statist shill, you are just a young, brash ideologue with no grounding in reality at all.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Once again I'm going to call you out on this... what's wrong with what I said?

Nothing wrong, per se. Just melodramatic, as TaftFan mentioned.

 

[Christian Liberty]

When a guy gains access to millions of pieces of data and heads to China, it looks like they are a traitor.

No, they don't, unless you're saying China is an enemy of the United States, and that Snowden is giving "aid and comfort" to them. But why would China be an enemy of the United States? Because you say so?

You're a joke.

But Lee didn't pass judgement on him definitively.

Somebody who is actively working to declassify information is not a statist shill, you are just a young, brash ideologue with no grounding in reality at all.

I can live with being a "young, brash ideologue", its better than being a statist shill with no morals like a certain someone in this conversation (And I'm not talking about Lee either...)

 

[Christian Liberty]

Nothing wrong, per se. Just melodramatic, as TaftFan mentioned.

You've got to be willing to expose them for what they are...

 

[Ender]

The second part kind of rings hollow when you consider the first part:



What do you think he was saying "Yes" too? That he wanted Dunkin Donuts? That he was going to watch the football game on Sunday? You know he was saying he believed Snowden was a traitor. Which means he doesn't know the constitution or common sense.



Oh really, Senator Lee. "Breaking a whole bunch of laws" (FF's translation: Words scribbled on a piece of paper and backed up by threats of lethal violence by the local mafia game) is a problem?

This line of thinking is why Hitler and Stalin weren't opposed by their own people and their own military more than they were. Mike Lee is a statist shill.

BS.

What Lee said was not condemning Snowden- only contemplating what he heard.

As for Lee being silent- stop looking at the MSM for your news.

AMENDMENT NO. 373

The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, there is now 2 minutes equally divided prior to a vote in relation to amendment No. 373, offered by the Senator from Utah, Mr. Lee.

The Senator from Utah.

Mr. LEE. Madam President, under this budget, by the year 2020 we will be spending more every year on interest on our national debt than we spend on our national defense. This is alarming and ought to be a concern to every one of us. This amendment creates a point of order that would address this problem and all similar problems in the future with other budgets that have the same defect.

While we are on this note, I would like to add that I am concerned about the amendment process. I heard from our majority leader a few minutes ago a statement suggesting that he might cut off debate, cut off the amendment process--this after he promised us at the beginning of the week that there would be unlimited amendments. And he repeated that phrase twice.

It is imperative that we finish this job. Each of us was elected to do a job. Each of us deserves to have our amendments called up. We have no business taking a 2-week vacation until we have gone through every amendment that any Senator from either side of the aisle wants to present.

Thank you.

 

[Christian Liberty]

As for Lee being silent- stop looking at the MSM for your news.

I didn't say that he's never talking ever. And I don't look at the MSM. I mostly look here honestly, and whatever is posted here. If I check anything else, its most likely LRC. I do occasionally look at MSM articles which I'll comment on (usually negatively) for world politics articles for school, but not too often.

 

[invisible]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Bridenstine. He's done extremely well since he's been in there, and did score 100% on the JBS' Freedom Index.

Although not in Congress, Paul LePage certainly deserves a mention. While not an actual "liberty candidate", he has demonstrated repeatedly that he's not in anyone's pocket, is actually on the side of the people, is willing to stand on principle, is willing to speak out, and has a set of balls. I'd love to see this guy in Congress after he's done being Gov, he would make an awesome Senator.

 

[MichaelDavis]

I agree. I'll vote Stockman now because he added me as a personal FB friend yesterday.

Also, I think he meant Matt Salmon instead of Mark Salmon.

Salmon has been outstanding, which isn't surprising considering that he was good in the 90s as well.

Yes, I did mean Matt. I was thinking about Sanford at the time, so it came out "Mark Salmon". Is there a way to update the poll? I included all of the people I considered the "purer" Congressmen. I thought about including Stockman, Gohmert, Bridenstine, etc but I didn't want to have twenty options. I think this will give us a good feel of the "Purists" (FreedomFanatic) vs the "Better Than Most" crowd (you).

 

[Suzu]

It's a difficult question, because several of the people in the poll aren't Congressmen, they are Senators.

 

[messana]

Alan Grayson I guess.

 

[compromise]

This is how I rate the other guys in terms of purity...

Top tier (all around excellent):
Jones
Sanford
Duncan (TN)

Second tier (excellent on fiscal issues & civil liberties):
Salmon
Stockman
Gohmert
Lee
Cruz
Broun
Huelskamp
Bridenstine
McClintock
DeSantis
Yoho

Third tier (good on fiscal issues & above average to good on civil liberties):
Mulvaney
Radel
Labrador
Duncan (SC)
Gowdy
Posey
Rohrabacher
Schweikert
Gosar
Meadows
Graves
Ribble
Poe
Smith (MO)

Fourth tier (above average on fiscal issues & above average to good on civil liberties):
Bentivolio
Mullin
Rokita
Griffith
Kingston
Roe
Chaffetz
LaMalfa

Fifth tier (good on fiscal issues but average on civil liberties):
Price
Scalise
Sensenbrenner
Jordan
Fleming
Pearce
Lamborn
Williams
Perry
Rothfus
Chabot

Five point fifth tier (below average to average on fiscal issues & above average to good on civil liberties):
Garrett
Gibson

Might have missed out a few but that's really most of them. I would vote for most of them, except maybe Gibson.

My personal favorite would probably be Cruz though, followed closely by Broun, Lee and Gohmert.

 

[Ender]

It's a difficult question, because several of the people in the poll aren't Congressmen, they are Senators.

CONGRESS is the House & the Senate; a CONGRESSMAN is either.

 

[georgiaboy]

I'm just thankful to see so many good names from which to choose. A few short years ago, this list was a lot shorter. Awesome-sauce.

 

[Keith and stuff]

The best politian in the US is Mark Warden. Unfortunately, he doesn't plan to run for NH state rep a 3rd time.

 

[Matthew5]

I picked Labrador because of the name. They're my favorite breed.

 

[NOVALibertarian]

Utterly befuddled that some see Mike Lee as anything but an ally at this point.

As for the question at hand, it's Mark Sanford in the House and Mike Lee in the Senate.

 

[invisible]

The best politian in the US is Mark Warden. Unfortunately, he doesn't plan to run for NH state rep a 3rd time.

Why not? Hopefully it's because he'll run for Congress! He absolutely has done a fantastic job as a state rep, no question about it. It would be excellent to see him step up, rather than retire from electoral politics.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

I'm just thankful to see so many good names from which to choose. A few short years ago, this list was a lot shorter. Awesome-sauce.

Now we should focus like a laser beam on getting more liberty candidates and allies elected in 2014.