Who is your favorite non Paul/Amash/Massie Congressman?

[MichaelDavis]

I think this will be an interesting thread. At the moment, I would choose Mike Lee. He has been silently working behind the scenes for Liberty. While Ted Cruz was conducting his talk-a-thon, Mike Lee was the only senator to stick around and ask lengthy questions, allowing the Texan to rest. I prefer Mike Lee to Ted Cruz at the moment because Cruz is too busy running for President to be considered genuine.

 

[Ender]

I think this will be an interesting thread. At the moment, I would choose Mike Lee. He has been silently working behind the scenes for Liberty. While Ted Cruz was conducting his talk-a-thon, Mike Lee was the only senator to stick around and ask lengthy questions, allowing the Texan to rest. I prefer Mike Lee to Ted Cruz at the moment because Cruz is too busy running for President to be considered genuine.

Absolutely MIKE LEE.

 

[eduardo89]

Sanford, Cruz, Lee. Closely followed by Huelskamp, Schweikert, Stockman, and Labrador.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I like all the dead ones. They can't do any more damage.

 

[Pericles]

Stockman should have been part of the poll

 

[TaftFan]

Stockman should have been part of the poll

I agree. I'll vote Stockman now because he added me as a personal FB friend yesterday.

Also, I think he meant Matt Salmon instead of Mark Salmon.

Salmon has been outstanding, which isn't surprising considering that he was good in the 90s as well.

 

[TaftFan]

I think of them in terms of categories.

Cruz, Stockman, and Broun are hell-raisers. Throw Gohmert in there as well.

McClintock, Lee, Jimmy Duncan, and Jones are the soft spoken guys.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Mike Lee gets no accolades.

Raul Labrador would be a huge upgrade if he got to be Speaker of the House.

 

[Christian Liberty]

To my understanding (And that's limited here, I don't know a whole lot about him) Sanford is all but Ron Paul when it comes to the only votes. I remember hearing about them being the only two "No" votes often. He's an adulterer, and I don't like that, but when it comes to politicians, I'll take personal baggage over oppression any day.

I really don't think I can like Mike Lee anymore. Its not so much anything that he's changed as it is that I've changed. His comments on Snowden were absolutely horrific, and I think I've decided I really can't give him a pass on that. I don't view him as actively hostile/dangerous like I do Ted Cruz, but I'm still not thrilled.

Also, if it came down to a vote on Iran, and war fever was high in the GOP, I don't really think I could trust Lee to vote no. He's soft-spoken, but ultimately I think if Cruz dived in headfirst, Lee likely would too. Rand Paul I at least think would vote no on a real war vote, even if he isn't showing it with his non-binding resolutions.

Ultimately, HB's answer is the best possible one, though.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I think so far this poll shows that 36% of the forum is in a different movement than the rest of us...

 

[heavenlyboy34]

To my understanding (And that's limited here, I don't know a whole lot about him) Sanford is all but Ron Paul when it comes to the only votes. I remember hearing about them being the only two "No" votes often. He's an adulterer, and I don't like that, but when it comes to politicians, I'll take personal baggage over oppression any day.

I really don't think I can like Mike Lee anymore. Its not so much anything that he's changed as it is that I've changed. His comments on Snowden were absolutely horrific, and I think I've decided I really can't give him a pass on that. I don't view him as actively hostile/dangerous like I do Ted Cruz, but I'm still not thrilled.

Also, if it came down to a vote on Iran, and war fever was high in the GOP, I don't really think I could trust Lee to vote no. He's soft-spoken, but ultimately I think if Cruz dived in headfirst, Lee likely would too. Rand Paul I at least think would vote no on a real war vote, even if he isn't showing it with his non-binding resolutions.

Ultimately, HB's answer is the best possible one, though.

 

[TaftFan]

To my understanding (And that's limited here, I don't know a whole lot about him) Sanford is all but Ron Paul when it comes to the only votes. I remember hearing about them being the only two "No" votes often. He's an adulterer, and I don't like that, but when it comes to politicians, I'll take personal baggage over oppression any day.

I really don't think I can like Mike Lee anymore. Its not so much anything that he's changed as it is that I've changed. His comments on Snowden were absolutely horrific, and I think I've decided I really can't give him a pass on that. I don't view him as actively hostile/dangerous like I do Ted Cruz, but I'm still not thrilled.

Also, if it came down to a vote on Iran, and war fever was high in the GOP, I don't really think I could trust Lee to vote no. He's soft-spoken, but ultimately I think if Cruz dived in headfirst, Lee likely would too. Rand Paul I at least think would vote no on a real war vote, even if he isn't showing it with his non-binding resolutions.

Ultimately, HB's answer is the best possible one, though.

Ugh, this melodramatic crap you always post makes me want to vomit.

 

[Matt Collins]

I think that Yoho may be one of the better ones. But Mike Lee should definitely be in there with Justin and Thomas. Besides, I had breakfast with Sen Lee last week

 

[eduardo89]

Ugh, this melodramatic crap you always post makes me want to vomit.

+rep

 

[Christian Liberty]

Ugh, this melodramatic crap you always post makes me want to vomit.

You missed the part where I said I cared what you thought.

Or for that matter, where I acknowledged that you can think at all. The jury's still out on that one.

 

[Christian Liberty]

If you'll remember when we were first discussing Snowden, I did defend Rand Paul, even while some of my fellow radical friends did not. I still think Rand's comment was a reasonable compromise between being a politician who was running to office, and not being a mouthpiece for the State. Lee's comment was an encouragement to "law and order" sheep everywhere, which is a problem regardless of whether Lee himself believed it or not.

Unlike Ted Cruz, Mike Lee has been very, very quiet. So he still has time to change my position one way or another. I wouldn't crucify him over one comment if he was solid otherwise. But right now, I just haven't seen that much from him at all. But when Cruz and Rand disagree, I usually see Lee with Cruz, not with Rand, so that's my first impression. Rand Paul has definitely set himself apart from the other senators, even if I'm occasionally not absolutely thrilled with him either.

 

[TaftFan]

I think that Yoho may be one of the better ones. But Mike Lee should definitely be in there with Justin and Thomas. Besides, I had breakfast with Sen Lee last week

Ah yes, Yoho as well.

Yoho and Massie are the only two co-sponsoring Paul Broun's bill to end the Fed.

 

[TaftFan]

“From what I know, yes, but I usually don’t call people a traitor without knowing all the facts,” Sen. Mike Lee said Tuesday. “From what I’ve been told, the guy broke a whole bunch of laws, and it’s a problem.”

....

Lee, a Utah Republican, has introduced legislation with Sen. Jeff Merkley to declassify significant portions of secret court rulings that authorized both programs.
“It will help ensure that the government makes sensitive decisions related to surveillance by applying legal standards that are known to the public. Particularly where our civil liberties are at stake, we must demand no less of our government,” Lee said in a statement.


Horrific Indeed

 

[Christian Liberty]

The second part kind of rings hollow when you consider the first part:

“From what I know, yes, but I usually don’t call people a traitor without knowing all the facts,”

What do you think he was saying "Yes" too? That he wanted Dunkin Donuts? That he was going to watch the football game on Sunday? You know he was saying he believed Snowden was a traitor. Which means he doesn't know the constitution or common sense.

Sen. Mike Lee said Tuesday. “From what I’ve been told, the guy broke a whole bunch of laws, and it’s a problem.”

Oh really, Senator Lee. "Breaking a whole bunch of laws" (FF's translation: Words scribbled on a piece of paper and backed up by threats of lethal violence by the local mafia game) is a problem?

This line of thinking is why Hitler and Stalin weren't opposed by their own people and their own military more than they were. Mike Lee is a statist shill.

 

[Christian Liberty]

In other words, our good senator wants to make demands on government, yet is absolutely horiffied that someone would dare disobey the demands made BY the government.

I don't expect him to get up and call Snowden a hero (Although I wouldn't fault him if he did) but he at least could have stood with Rand Paul and taken a middle of the road position. Only an absolutely brainwashed, hopeless sheep would have thought Rand Paul was being too generous to Snowden.

What a freaking joke.