Who is the worst President we have ever had?

[Jeremy]

Wilson imo

 

[Zera]

Wilson, for sure. Then Bush Jr., then Lincoln.

It's far too early to say Obama. I understand your Obama hates, but it's only been two and a half months. I judge presidents by their second year or so, when you have a pretty good image of what it's been like so far, and what you can expect next.

 

[surf]

W. hands down. Give Obama a few more months and it may be close.

 

[rp08orbust]

Anyone who hasn't answered Abraham Lincoln hasn't spent enough time at LewRockwell.com

 

[Objectivist]

Franklin Delano Roosevelt makes the top of my list.
His term was the start of the National Debt.

 

[Minarchy4Sale]

Lincoln has to take the cake.

 

[Minarchy4Sale]

Carter was def worse than Bush Jr.

 

[rp08orbust]

Franklin Delano Roosevelt makes the top of my list.
His term was the start of the National Debt.

I believe the national debt has existed since the nation's inception. In any case, Lincoln presided over one of the biggest explosions of the national debt.

 

[rp08orbust]

Carter was def worse than Bush Jr.

Why?

I agree with Lew Rockwell that Carter was probably the least evil president of the last 100 years.

 

[Young Paleocon]

Wilson!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Murdered incomes and morals with the Revenue Act of 1913, murdered the free market with the Fed, ....not to mention murdered 60,000 American soldiers in WW1. Imprisoned political activists, censored the press, and inspired hatred for Germans in America. Not to mention he was quite the racist. I'm sure he's done much more in his attempt at the super fail.

 

[akforme]

Carter was def worse than Bush Jr.

neo-cons love hating Carter. Mostly because of talk radio and so they can brag about how Reagan came in and saved us.

For me it's:

Lincoln, FDR, Wilson, Obama, Bush jr.


But I kinda think it's been downhill since Jefferson.

 

[werdd]

But I kinda think it's been downhill since Jefferson.

Jackson IMO

 

[Objectivist]

I believe the national debt has existed since the nation's inception. In any case, Lincoln presided over one of the biggest explosions of the national debt.

http://www.die.net/musings/national_debt/debt_linear.png

Not at the level FDR did, then FDR had spent more than the entire first 150 years of the country in it's entirety. Now Obama thinks he can one up FDR and try the same scheme once again a fools endeavor.

On Lincoln I'd say that with the freeing of slaves we moved more towards capitalism and free markets, the soon coming Industrial Revolution did far more for the Common Man than any other period in World history.
Then the South did lose with salve labor at it's disposal and that should be a lesson for Socialists.

 

[Standing Like A Rock]

Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Bush Jr, Obama

 

[Jace]

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[akforme]

Worst of all time:

Wilson
FDR
Lyndon Johnson
Truman

Highest American body counts:

Lincoln
FDR
Wilson
Truman
Johnson

FDR brought us civilian massacres to rival Genghis Khan and Hitler, and threw conscripted Americans into the meat grinder on an industrial scale -- all for his Uncle Joe, one of the worst butchers of humans in history.

Truman gave us the nuking of non-military civilian population centers -- a horrific war crime like no other, and not replicated since (but to be remembered until the end of time).

For all his faults and large death toll, I can't find it in my heart to say Lincoln was a bad president. I wish he would have followed Ron Paul's path instead of the one that led to our most destructive war. But whatever his motives, he did end slavery in the United States, preserved the Union and gave us the Gettysburg Address.

Perserve the Union? That's not a good thing IMO. Not when the union stops being what it was founded on.

 

[damon04]

My vote is Woodrow Wilson.

 

[Jace]

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[rp08orbust]

http://www.die.net/musings/national_debt/debt_linear.png

Not at the level FDR did, then FDR had spent more than the entire first 150 years of the country in it's entirety. Now Obama thinks he can one up FDR and try the same scheme once again a fools endeavor.

On Lincoln I'd say that with the freeing of slaves we moved more towards capitalism and free markets, the soon coming Industrial Revolution did far more for the Common Man than any other period in World history.
Then the South did lose with salve labor at it's disposal and that should be a lesson for Socialists.

A linear graph of the national debt's nominal value is misleading. If you graphed the national debt divided by the population and adjusted for inflation, the early part of the graph would not be so flat. But I'm sure no one disputes that FDR created a huge jump in the national debt.

Lincoln also reinstated the central bank and unconstitutionally pushed and signed legal tender laws supporting the greenback in order to fund his unconstitutional war against seceding states, thereby paving the way for the Federal Reserve system and starting the US down the road to paper money. He was the father of crony capitalism, to which free-market capitalism will be forever but unfairly associated thanks to him (every time someone says "capitalism is failing", you can thank Lincoln). And of course he was one of the biggest tax raisers in US history.

 

[Athan]

Dubbya
Nixon
Franklin Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson
Bush
Clinton