Who Actually Votes - stats

[Vooch]

Here are some sobering stats from the area I am working on GOTV. It is a typical 'core' Republican suburban district moderately wealthy, but not wealthy enough to turn into Democrats.

As part of my GOTV effort, I am targeting those registered voters who vote in every single election. Note that Primaries have low turnouts. Here is the breakdown, by age, of those who voted in every election in the last 2 years:

80 and older = 93 voters
70 - 80 years = 191
60-70 years = 356
50 - 60 years = 415
40 - 50 years = 236
30 - 40 years = 68
20 - 30 years = 50 voters

yup - 45% of the real voters in my typically Republican district are over 60 years old; barely 8% are under 30.

There are twice as many voters over 80 than there are under 30 ! in my district.

We can attract 100% of the under 30 vote - and get creamed.

Therefore, lets please try and do what we can to attract those older people who really vote.

 

[sophocles07]

God damn old people.

 

[pacelli]

God damn old people.

At least Seniors are voting. The number for young people is pathetic.

 

[NEPA_Revolution]

Young people will become old people one day......

 

[Black Jake]

Remember when campaign came out with that stupid cheezy ad in NH specifically targetted at old people and we got all pissed off because it wasn't new and edgy enough, so they replaced it? Whoops. Not that I have a lot of faith in campaign anymore, but credit where credit's due -- maybe they had that one right and we didn't.

 

[CountryboyRonPaul]

Yep, we all went out and got our friends all worked up, pissed off, and ready to make a change....

To bad they're all about 24 years old and don't have the motivation to clean out the refrigerator much less register Republican 2 months in advance and go out and vote.

I feel like I'm in an echo chamber, everybody I hang out with talks about Ron Paul, people at the bars I go to know about Ron Paul... Yet, when I ask those same people if they voted, I usually get a resounding No.

 

[WRellim]

Here are some sobering stats from the area I am working on GOTV. It is a typical 'core' Republican suburban district moderately wealthy, but not wealthy enough to turn into Democrats.

As part of my GOTV effort, I am targeting those registered voters who vote in every single election. Note that Primaries have low turnouts. Here is the breakdown, by age, of those who voted in every election in the last 2 years:

80 and older = 93 voters
70 - 80 years = 191
60-70 years = 356
50 - 60 years = 415
40 - 50 years = 236
30 - 40 years = 68
20 - 30 years = 50 voters

yup - 45% of the real voters in my typically Republican district are over 60 years old; barely 8% are under 30.

There are twice as many voters over 80 than there are under 30 ! in my district.

We can attract 100% of the under 30 vote - and get creamed.

Therefore, lets please try and do what we can to attract those older people who really vote.

NOW you need to cross-reference THAT with the demographics for the population in your area.

THAT will give you and even MORE SHOCKING revelation. (Hint, the highest percentage of any demographic that votes are the REALLY OLD people... the lowest are the under 30 [aka 18 to 30].)

The under thirty are only 8% of the voters, but the 18-30 age group are probably 20% of the local population (some areas higher, some lower).

 

[WRellim]

Remember when campaign came out with that stupid cheezy ad in NH specifically targetted at old people and we got all pissed off because it wasn't new and edgy enough, so they replaced it? Whoops. Not that I have a lot of faith in campaign anymore, but credit where credit's due -- maybe they had that one right and we didn't.

Well, it was stupid, and cheezy, and it was also INEFFECTIVE; regardless of whether it was aimed at old people or not.

Ads do NOT have to be stupid and cheezy to get old people to vote -- they have to be EFFECTIVE to get old people to vote.

So, no the campaign was NOT right.

 

[Akus]

At least Seniors are voting. The number for young people is pathetic.

that's why we get huge crowds all over colleges but nothing where it really matters. Most will shout yeah Ron Paul, end the War!!!


and then go back to watching MTV or American Idol or something....

 

[WRellim]

Things are NOT always what they appear to be

that's why we get huge crowds all over colleges but nothing where it really matters. Most will shout yeah Ron Paul, end the War!!!


and then go back to watching MTV or American Idol or something....

No you get LARGE crowds (but not HUGE crowds... those are Obama-nation) and ONLY at colleges... because the campaign basically now is ONLY scheduling events AT colleges, and then ONLY if the locals can virtually GUARANTEE that attendance will be 1,000 or more.

Seriously. Madison, Wisconsin meetup was trying for months to get an appearance by Ron Paul, but the campaign would not even seriously consider it unless the locals could "guarantee" that their would be 1,000 + people in attendance (and by "guarantee" they meant it had to be something that professors or admin would REQUIRE attendance by that number of students -- so sometimes, like the "Liberty University" speech, not all of those college students even WANT to be there, some of them HAVE to be).

Things are NOT always what they appear to be, sometimes you gotta do a little digging to find out the full story.



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[OddballAZ]

That's pretty interesting info. It doesn't really surprise me but it's nice to see actual numbers. Where did you get them from? I'm wondering if they are available in my area.

I don't know how we can effectively target the older vote. Most old people don't use the internet, or if they do it isn't on a regular basis and they don't go to any non major media sites. Old people get most of their news from CBS, NBC, ABC, CIA, FBI and KGB.. (ok maybe not so much the last 3 but you get my point). They don't even get it from cable news sources.

The reason McCain won is plain and simple. Name recognition among old people. McCain used to be a pretty good conservative. He built his name being a good Republican. I'm from AZ so I've payed more attention to him than most people who are not from AZ. I even voted for him a few times for Senator. But I sure as hell won't do it again. He barely got my vote last time because he was already becoming more and more liberal. But it didn't matter because nobody ran against him. I'm sure an old person in some other state isn't going to pay nearly as much attention to him. Just enough to know he has an "R" next to his name and "R" means good, "I" means sort of good, and "D" means bad.

Some younger people know whats up. And we will all be older one day and we will be calling the shots. The bad thing is I don't think we have that much time.

 

[Vooch]

The information comes from the voter lists that every Precint Worker gets from the campaign or their state coordinator or their county coordinator - you are working a Precint aren't you ?


McWar hadn't won, not by a long shot.

The best way to work the old folk is by face to face talk; use the most base emotional arguments

1) (ie RP has been married for 51 years to a wondeful women and then give 'em the letter Mrs. Paul wrote about RP),
2) Ron Paul is a baby doctor, he'll know how to fix Medicare,
3) RP is 71 years old, he has seen a lot