Whitney Houston would still be alive If She just stuck to pot, says Tommy Chong

[donnay]

Precription drugs kill far more people than all other drugs combined, and yet the pharmaceutical companies are one of the largest funders and proponents of the War on Drugs (outside of the taxpayers, of course). Gotta get rid of the competition.

Absolutely! Before too long big pHARMa will be getting rights to marijuana so the only way you will be able to get your medical marijuana is through Pfizer, Bayer, Merck, AstraZeneca, Eli Lily and the rest.

 

[dannno]

I think the argument is that it alters your mind in such a way that your control over yourself is greatly reduced. Your thinking becomes slow and muddles, your inhibitions slacken, your self-control disappears. Luckily unlike alcohol, pot has a moderating effect for the most part so that you don't become violent when you lose control of yourself. But the fact that you lose control of yourself is enough for me. With other stuff, like chocolate, I can recognize the urge for sugar and control it. The mind altering state pot puts me in puts me beyond my control. I lose my agency when I'm high. For that reason alone, divorced from even moral objections to it, I am against recreational pot use.

What can't you control when you're stoned and how much do you need to get there? Do you know how many really good athletes and gamers play stoned?

I mean, you can get kinda tired, but turkey does that as well.

For me, I think it changes how your mind works, but not necessarily for the worse. You might think your thoughts are muddled, but in reality your thoughts are just taking you in different directions than what you are used to. Just because you're a rookie doesn't make that a bad thing, eventually you can learn to control it and it has its advantages.

 

[libertarian4321]

Whitney didn't use crack, because "crack is whack" and she's too rich to use crack.

Or something...

 

[Cabal]

I think the argument is that it alters your mind in such a way that your control over yourself is greatly reduced. Your thinking becomes slow and muddles, your inhibitions slacken, your self-control disappears. Luckily unlike alcohol, pot has a moderating effect for the most part so that you don't become violent when you lose control of yourself. But the fact that you lose control of yourself is enough for me. With other stuff, like chocolate, I can recognize the urge for sugar and control it. The mind altering state pot puts me in puts me beyond my control. I lose my agency when I'm high. For that reason alone, divorced from even moral objections to it, I am against recreational pot use.

It isn't so cut and dry. A lot of the high, or the effect, is dependent on what type of cannabis you're actually using, how you're using it, and your individual brain chemistry.Using a strain of 100% indica, for instance, produces a significantly different effect than using a strain of 100% sativa. Whatever the case, "loss of control" doesn't accurately reflect the general or typical effects of cannabis by itself, regardless of strain.

 

[Jonathanm]

I think the argument is that it alters your mind in such a way that your control over yourself is greatly reduced. Your thinking becomes slow and muddles, your inhibitions slacken, your self-control disappears.

I'm a daily marijuana smoker and I have to disagree with this generalization. Marijuana involves an astounding number of chemicals and cannabinoids, many of which contribute to the active 'high'. Every strain of marijuana is slightly different, and contains varying levels of these compounds. This is why pot smokers are so keen on varying strains: One strain can put you to sleep and another can make it impossible to sleep because your thoughts are racing so quickly. One strain can cause anxiety, while another can actually decrease anxiety. For this reason, I believe it's incorrect to state that one's thinking becomes slow, and their inhibitions slacken. It largely depends on the individual and the strain involved.

Interestingly, one of the most beneficial compounds in cannabis, if not the most beneficial, is cannabidiol (CBD). I say this is interesting because CBD not only doesn't get you high, it will actively reduce the effects of THC, meaning that balanced levels of CBD and THC will leave a person feeling less altered mentally, but completely medicated physically. It's astounding to me that the federal government would block research into compounds like CBD, when CBD isn't even the chemical recreational users aim for (Almost all modern cannabis strains have a very high THC level, with very little CBD).

If cannabis were legal, I would probably have four different strains (I suffer from bipolar II disorder, as well as severe anxiety)

One for anxiety. (Lower THC, above-average CBD, and CBN)
One for depression/suicidal idealization. (High THC, low CBD)
One for pain relief/general health (High CBD-to-THC ratio)
One for sleep. (High levels of CBN and THC)

Before long I'm sure we'll have legalized medical cannabis sprays that are literally taken from plants grown by pharmaceuticals. They already exist in several other countries. Of course, anyone who wants to grow their own cannabis for 1/20th the price of pharmaceutical will be locked away as an evil druglord.

Sorry, I know I got rather off-topic here, I just thought it might interest some of you to know a bit more about the variances. And yes, I don't think anyone can argue that, had any drug-user stuck with marijuana, they wouldn't have died from drug-related causes. Personally, I've never had the desire to try anything stronger than cannabis. It gets me where I need to be, and I can use it knowing that I will suffer very little in terms of bodily/mental damage. The same cannot be said of the "gold standard" bipolar medication, Lithium. Lithium is safe in the right doses, but at higher levels becomes toxic to the kidneys. Personally, I just can't stand the idea of taking a pill that, if I accidentally take more than the appropriate dosage, or if I allow myself to become dehydrated, can have fatal side effects. No thanks. I'd rather vaporize a relatively harmless flower.

 

[iakobos]

I wonder if this guy stuck with only using pot?

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[Anti Federalist]

Precription drugs kill far more people than all other drugs combined, and yet the pharmaceutical companies are one of the largest funders and proponents of the War on Drugs (outside of the taxpayers, of course). Gotta get rid of the competition.

Prescription drugs kill more people now than car crashes.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I think that goes for people in general.

Instead popping these poison pills of Big Pharma, how much better would everybody be if they just toked up once in a while?

I'll be honest, work has kept me "clean" for over twenty years.

But if I didn't have piss tests and DNA tests and hair follicle tests hanging over me, damn right I take a night to myself and get high.

Be a nice diversion.

 

[JK/SEA]

Lets see...fluoride in the water, and i heard something about putting downers in the system as well?...

 

[bluesc]

I think that goes for people in general.

Instead popping these poison pills of Big Pharma, how much better would everybody be if they just toked up once in a while?

I'll be honest, work has kept me "clean" for over twenty years.

But if I didn't have piss tests and DNA tests and hair follicle tests hanging over me, damn right I take a night to myself and get high.

Be a nice diversion.

I will never take a job that requires any form of drug screening. Is pot necessary for happiness, or do I even plan on continuing to smoke it? No. But I'm sure as hell not giving up the freedom to do it if I wish.

Some of the greatest people in history smoked cannabis, and they were a million times more successful than any alcoholic politician or pill-popping army general today.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I will never take a job that requires any form of drug screening. Is pot necessary for happiness, or do I even plan on continuing to smoke it? No. But I'm sure as hell not giving up the freedom to do it if I wish.

Some of the greatest people in history smoked cannabis, and they were a million times more successful than any alcoholic politician or pill-popping army general today.

Well, my friend, it's getting to the point that there won't be any jobs, unless you submit to a drug screen.

Had enough people raised hell and stopped it when it was just getting started thirty years ago in small, under represented, fields of employment like mine, maybe we wouldn't be at this point.

Most all major corporations are moving toward this, and many small outfits, without any government regulation at all, they just do it because their insurance provider tells them to, or the lawyers tell them to.