Where's the Youth Vote?

[specsaregood]

I see. So basically you are deflecting from the facts of the matter. Good to know.

Hazek, I'm not deflecting. I'm saying you could work on your people skills on the forum; afterall we should all be friends here as we are supposedly working toward the same goals. eg: If you think somebody should watch a video that you think is helpful, saying: "I promise you wont regret it if at all you want to be able to think for yourself" Leave off the bolded part and you would have had a positive message and most likely a higher response of people actually watching it.

 

[hazek]

To make it clearer, the video is about VALUES, not the form in which they are presented, that consequently also make a great leader.

What is presented, you can read about here:

Values
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then is not an act, but a habit.
-Aristotle

Values
Reality (Fact-Based)
Reason (Objectivity)
Independent Thinking
Productivity
Honesty
Integrity
Justice (Fairness)
Pride
Self-Esteem (Self-Motivation)
Teamwork/Mutual (Supportiveness)
The Role of Emotions

Values

The great Greek philosophers saw values as guides to excellence in thinking and action. In this context, values are standards which we strive to achieve. Values are practical habits that enable us as individuals to live, be successful and achieve happiness. For BB&T, our values enable us to achieve our mission and corporate purpose.

To be useful, values must be consciously held and be consistent (non-contradictory). Many people have conflicting values which prevent them from acting with clarity and self-confidence.

There are 10 primary values at BB&T. These values are consistent with one another and are integrated. To fully act on one of these values, you must also act consistently with the other values. Our focus on values grows from our belief that ideas matter and that an individual's character is of critical significance.
Values are important at BB&T.

more at: http://bbt.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=18&item=122

 

[hazek]

Hazek, I'm not deflecting. I'm saying you could work on your people skills on the forum; afterall we should all be friends here as we are supposedly working toward the same goals. eg: If you think somebody should watch a video that you think is helpful, saying: "I promise you wont regret it if at all you want to be able to think for yourself" Leave off the bolded part and you would have had a positive message and most likely a higher response of people actually watching it.

Well, see, I'm sorry but I thought you meant the presenter in the video was an asshole but instead you meant me. Yeah, it's a character flaw of mine to often come off as extremely arrogant. It actually defines who I am and I don't think I'll ever change..

I of course didn't mean to sound like that. "I promise you wont regret it if at all you want to be able to think for yourself" was meant to inspire people who want to think for themselves to watch it not to seek a higher ground from those who don't. It could also be that English is not my native language so my style of using it could cause some unintentional misunderstandings..

p.s.: I even apologize in advance in my signature in case you haven't noticed.

 

[Elwar]

No matter how many times you say "but this time..."

Youth do not vote.

 

[hazek]

No matter how many times you say "but this time..."

Youth do not vote.

I think the point is not that the youth votes but rather that if we can't get the majority of the youth behind Ron in a shitty poll which is the demographic that should be the most receptive to his message, how are we then suppose to win the other less receptive demographics?

 

[Exponent]

Remember that this cycle's crop of 18-29 year-olds is a substantially different group than four years ago. 1/3rd* of the previous group are now 30+, and 1/3rd* of the current group have never voted for a president before. With the college-aged group, it's pretty much like starting over from scratch every four years. As I remember someone else recently noting: It's summer; school's out. Things might pick back up once September rolls around and college students start paying more attention and talking with each other.

* fuzzy math due to laziness and for conciseness

 

[MartyMoose]

My personality type: INTJ - please forgive my weaknesses (Not naturally in tune with others feelings; may be insensitive at times, tend to respond to conflict with logic and reason, tend to believe I'm always right, tend to be unwilling or unable to accept blame )

yeah. thats me too. Sorry. I like you guys a lot, I would like you more if you agreed with me. lol

Half of what I say is meant to piss you off and get you to work your ass off to prove me wrong, the other half is flawless logic. You decide, lol.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Getting the youth vote:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?301627-Getting-the-youth-vote&p=3376072#post3376072

 

[enoch150]

Youth vote enough to make an impact. In 2008 18% were 18-29. 16% were 65 and older. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Well, see, I'm sorry but I thought you meant the presenter in the video was an asshole but instead you meant me. Yeah, it's a character flaw of mine to often come off as extremely arrogant. It actually defines who I am and I don't think I'll ever change..

I of course didn't mean to sound like that. "I promise you wont regret it if at all you want to be able to think for yourself" was meant to inspire people who want to think for themselves to watch it not to seek a higher ground from those who don't. It could also be that English is not my native language so my style of using it could cause some unintentional misunderstandings..

p.s.: I even apologize in advance in my signature in case you haven't noticed.

I tend to bounce back and forth between INTJ and ENTJ (I guess it depends on the phase of the moon) and I don't seem to have that problem. Mind you, when I get my heckles up, I am careful to edit before posting.

 

[ForLibertyFight]

I got at least 5 of my friends to register as Republicans and vote for Paul in the CA's primary. They are all 18

 

[Esoteric]

I got at least 5 of my friends to register as Republicans and vote for Paul in the CA's primary. They are all 18

nice. now move to Iowa! lol

 

[Napoleon's Shadow]

The "youth" crowd doesn't vote in numbers, and when they do it's for Democrats.

The core of the Republican voting bloc are people are over the age of 50. Those are the ones we need to get to vote for Ron.


I suggest you see this thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?301626-Getting-the-youth-vote

 

[enoch150]

The "youth" crowd doesn't vote in numbers, and when they do it's for Democrats.

The core of the Republican voting bloc are people are over the age of 50. Those are the ones we need to get to vote for Ron.


I suggest you see this thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?301626-Getting-the-youth-vote

Whether or not the youth votes in numbers for Democrats is irrelevant in the Republican primary. We can still target those who are open to voting Republican. They make up 10%-15% of those who turn out for the Republican primary. It may not be the largest voting block, but it would be a mistake to ignore it. Especially when it ought to be relatively easy to clean up in that division, or at least get an early group of activists going. No reason to give away free points to someone else. I'm certainly not suggesting that demographic should be the primary focus, but it shouldn't be ignored, either. Here are the results of the 2008 CT Republican Primary exit poll:

11% were 18-29 (Paul got 18% of those - 2,932 votes)
26% were 30-44 (Paul got 5% of those - 1,925 votes)
36% were 45-59 (Paul got 2% of those - 1,066 votes)
28% were 60 + (Paul got 1% of those - 414 votes)

Glancing through some of the other states, that looks fairly typical. 46% of his votes in my state came from those under 29. Oftentimes, the older people get, the more invested in the current structure of things they become, and the less likely they are to want any kind of real change. I haven't yet seen a viable plan to alter that reality.

 

[BUSHLIED]

Whether or not the youth votes in numbers for Democrats is irrelevant in the Republican primary. We can still target those who are open to voting Republican. They make up 10%-15% of those who turn out for the Republican primary. It may not be the largest voting block, but it would be a mistake to ignore it. Especially when it ought to be relatively easy to clean up in that division, or at least get an early group of activists going. No reason to give away free points to someone else. I'm certainly not suggesting that demographic should be the primary focus, but it shouldn't be ignored, either. Here are the results of the 2008 CT Republican Primary exit poll:

11% were 18-29 (Paul got 18% of those - 2,932 votes)
26% were 30-44 (Paul got 5% of those - 1,925 votes)
36% were 45-59 (Paul got 2% of those - 1,066 votes)
28% were 60 + (Paul got 1% of those - 414 votes)

Glancing through some of the other states, that looks fairly typical. 46% of his votes in my state came from those under 29. Oftentimes, the older people get, the more invested in the current structure of things they become, and the less likely they are to want any kind of real change. I haven't yet seen a viable plan to alter that reality.

You mean from the campaign?

 

[Napoleon's Shadow]

Here are the results of the 2008 CT Republican Primary exit poll:

11% were 18-29 (Paul got 18% of those - 2,932 votes)
26% were 30-44 (Paul got 5% of those - 1,925 votes)
36% were 45-59 (Paul got 2% of those - 1,066 votes)
28% were 60 + (Paul got 1% of those - 414 votes)

Big piece of a small pie.