Where Did The Particles That Started The Big Bang Come From?

[torchbearer]

In the mean time, the program would fail to work and get caught in an endless loop someplace along the line.

Bad programming would die.
Leaving only good codes to continue to replicate.
That seems to be how the best traits seems to survive, and bad ones die off, not to be replicated.

That is part of the algorithm.

If the sequence doesn't provide viability, it isn't replicated. Or replicated in a way that it is not sustainable.
That allows for the adaptability of species. Variations in the code persist to maintain viability.
A living code, which makes it different from our computer programs as of today which are basically set in stone with no way to replicate a different version without the introduction of a virus.

 

[Dr.3D]

Bad programming would die.
Leaving only good codes to continue to replicate.
That seems to be how the best traits seems to survive, and bad ones die off, not to be replicated.

That is part of the algorithm.

If the sequence doesn't provide viability, it isn't replicated. Or replicated in a way that it is not sustainable.
That allows for the adaptability of species. Variations in the code persist to maintain viability.
A living code, which makes it different from our computer programs as of today which are basically set in stone with no way to replicate a different version without the introduction of a virus.

That would then make the accomplishment of such a complex program even more difficult and would require a lot more time for it to take place.

 

[torchbearer]

That would then make the accomplishment of such a complex program even more difficult and would require a lot more time for it to take place.

I agree. It would require millions upon millions of years assuming the random events didn't get the code right the first time, which is a random possibility too.
But, you must understand, there is a structured code to life.
How do atoms become self animated, thoughtful creatures? That is the mystery of life.

 

[Dr.3D]

I agree. It would require millions upon millions of years assuming the random events didn't get the code right the first time, which is a random possibility too.
But, you must understand, there is a structured code to life.
How do atoms become self animated, thoughtful creatures? That is the mystery of life.

Exactly!

 

[torchbearer]

I agree. It would require millions upon millions of years assuming the random events didn't get the code right the first time, which is a random possibility too.
But, you must understand, there is a structured code to life.
How do atoms become self animated, thoughtful creatures? That is the mystery of life.

I didn't realize how profound that statement was until i reread it.
I will have to think about that mystery in more detail.
To answer that question...

How do atoms become self animated, thoughtful creatures?

Would be a break through in the theory of "life".

 

[Dr.3D]

I didn't realize how profound that statement was until i reread it.
I will have to think about that mystery in more detail.
To answer that question...

Would be a break through in the theory of "life".

Yep, without the ability to replicate, there would be no ability to perfect the program.
The ability to replicate must then have been a part of the original program.

 

[torchbearer]

Something beneficial from a useless thread.
I hope others can add some of their own insight into this mystery.

 

[torchbearer]

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[amy31416]

I didn't realize how profound that statement was until i reread it.
I will have to think about that mystery in more detail.
To answer that question...

Would be a break through in the theory of "life".

There are actually some hypotheses out there in regards to this. This Wikipedia page covers most of them that I've heard of--interesting stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life#Current_models

 

[asgardshill]

Something beneficial from a useless thread.
I hope others can add some of their own insight into this mystery.

I disagree - this has been a fascinating thread. A brain-stretcher if ever there was one, and refreshingly free of rancor. Kudos to all involved.

 

[amy31416]

I disagree - this has been a fascinating thread. A brain-stretcher if ever there was one, and refreshingly free of rancor. Kudos to all involved.

I think it's a pretty great thread as well. It's great to see people talkin' up all the science and the point where science meets philosophy/metaphysics. One of my favorite topics for a long time.

 

[amy31416]

Jesus, I just read through a bunch of posts on the previous couple of pages--great stuff guys.

There's tons of biological models being eked out using computer code to emulate biological systems--I'll see if I can get permission to share some of it.

 

[torchbearer]

There are actually some hypotheses out there in regards to this. This Wikipedia page covers most of them that I've heard of--interesting stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life#Current_models

thanks for the link.

 

[icon124]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9072629460246678761

 

[torchbearer]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9072629460246678761

I posted that vid earlier.
I think the guy has some very interesting points.

 

[torchbearer]

I disagree - this has been a fascinating thread. A brain-stretcher if ever there was one, and refreshingly free of rancor. Kudos to all involved.

It is possible to discuss these things without flamers.
I think it comes from first, everyone admitting they don't know the answers.
Then it becomes everyone just giving their thoughts.

 

[amy31416]

It is possible to discuss these things without flamers.
I think it comes from first, everyone admitting they don't know the answers.
Then it becomes everyone just giving their thoughts.

Good point. There is nobody here who knows the answers to the OP's question, that is a great equalizer--especially when nobody can even pretend to know the answers.

 

[asgardshill]

Good point. There is nobody here who knows the answers to the OP's question, that is a great equalizer--especially when nobody can even pretend to know the answers.

This thread (and especially the "What was here before the Universe"-type question that inspired it) reminded me of being back in college. Just a bunch of frat rats, bombed on PBR or buzzing on Mexican ditchweed, contemplating the mysteries of the cosmos. Almost makes me want to go eat supper over the sink. Almost.

 

[amy31416]

This thread (and especially the "What was here before the Universe"-type question that inspired it) reminded me of being back in college. Just a bunch of frat rats, bombed on PBR or buzzing on Mexican ditchweed, contemplating the mysteries of the cosmos. Almost makes me want to go eat supper over the sink. Almost.

Just make it realistic: Ramen noodles.

 

[asgardshill]

Just make it realistic: Ramen noodles.

We would have killed to have had something cheap 'n easy like ramen noodles then. Best we could do is Kraft dinner. For breakfast lunch and supper.