Where are the Modern Anarchist Societies?

[Brick-in-the-Wall]

So...who all wants to get together and make our own kickass city with me!?

Any takers!?

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[heavenlyboy34]

So...who all wants to get together and make our own kickass city with me!?

Any takers!?

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Put together a business plan and I'll consider it.

 

[Jingles]

Does the free state project count?

 

[hazek]

Does the free state project count?

No.

Here will be the future of anarchism: http://www.seasteading.org/

I highly doubt it. I researched the idea a bit, read and watched a few things from Patri Friedman and what he wants is a free society but one that still obeys the admiralty law, one that works with nations on financial issues and obeys their regulations meaning no support for money laundering, no harboring of "criminals" or god forbid "terrorists", no amassing of weapons of mass destruction of any kind..

So you'd be free to live in the middle of a very unfriendly ocean as long as you are obedient to those with the most powerful weapons and don't dare compete with them for their business without following their rules.



This is very frustrating for me. Somehow people still believe that a) this is freedom and not just a slipper slope or b) that freedom is possible without being willing to fight and potentially die for it. I'm sorry but if I'm going to spend my life in an environment that my body didn't evolve to survive in and endure all the pain that comes with it, I sure as hell aren't going to give up even an inch of my freedom. For me to make such a step it would have to be all or nothing.

But the more I look around me the more I see how this simply is a pipe dream. Yes an anarcho capitalist society is the best system for a society but I just don't see how it could ever come about.. The more I look at the world the more I'm thinking I can't win against these criminals, why not just join them and have an easy life exploiting the herd? Why punish myself by believing in this noble idea of complete freedom, why not just look for the easiest path to an easy life, protect my wealth, exploit the stupidity of others and just not give a fuck?

 

[TheTexan]

Here will be the future of anarchism: http://www.seasteading.org/

Prohibitively expensive. Much more feasible to declare sovereignty on land.

A land based approach would require a sizable (I'd say 5,000 people minimum) population to have a chance at legitimate sovereignty. A boat-based approach for sovereignty all you need is yourself and a boat, so there is that.

Yes an anarcho capitalist society is the best system for a society but I just don't see how it could ever come about..

It comes about by us making it come about. Declare sovereignty, and be willing to sacrifice your life to protect it. The more people who do it with you, the more likely it is to succeed.

Or just go off the grid. That works too - but is obviously not optimal.

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

[video]http://framework.latimes.com/2011/12/19/slab-city-video/[/video]

I lived up in the mountains of Northern California for a time and the "town" I lived in was considered by the Sacramento B to be the most lawless town in America. Looking back now we didn't need laws because everyone got along the town was like 1 big family and it was a lot nicer place than slab city

 

[Crotale]

But the more I look around me the more I see how this simply is a pipe dream. Yes an anarcho capitalist society is the best system for a society but I just don't see how it could ever come about.. The more I look at the world the more I'm thinking I can't win against these criminals, why not just join them and have an easy life exploiting the herd? Why punish myself by believing in this noble idea of complete freedom, why not just look for the easiest path to an easy life, protect my wealth, exploit the stupidity of others and just not give a fuck?

Because you know that would be morally wrong and you have more respect for the life, liberty and property of others.

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

the more closely connected a community is the fewer laws needed