When the hell we going to have a $ bomb for Harris??

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Rand just had another one, Schiff just had another one. Kokesh has one coming up on the 30th.

Let's not forget about RJ. I think he has a legit shot in the primaries. let's help him out.
 
i double ditto agree!/sc

rj is downright awesome and working his heart out for Oklahoma . . .
 
Is Harris the one running against an incumbent Republican?

an incumbent republican who voted for the bailouts...yes. we need more people running against incumbents who have sold us down the river.

some people on here have an aversion to people running against republican incumbents. I don't understand it:confused: especially when they are a piece of shit incumbent
 
an incumbent republican who voted for the bailouts...yes. we need more people running against incumbents who have sold us down the river.

some people on here have an aversion to people running against republican incumbents. I don't understand it:confused: especially when they are a piece of shit incumbent

I think it's mostly a question of allocating resources most effectively. We can't win every battle, so we should focus on the battles that are most winnable and make sure we win there. With that accomplished, we can move on to winning back areas where both the Democrats and the local GOP old guard will be against us.

In my view, we should focus on races in this order:

  1. Open seat, historically Republican district
  2. Open seat, historically Democrat district
  3. Democrat incumbent, historically Republican district
  4. Republican incumbent, historically Republican district
  5. Democrat incumbent, historically Democrat district
  6. Republican incumbent, historically Democrat district
 
I think it's mostly a question of allocating resources most effectively. We can't win every battle, so we should focus on the battles that are most winnable and make sure we win there. With that accomplished, we can move on to winning back areas where both the Democrats and the local GOP old guard will be against us.

In my view, we should focus on races in this order:

  1. Open seat, historically Republican district
  2. Open seat, historically Democrat district
  3. Democrat incumbent, historically Republican district
  4. Republican incumbent, historically Republican district
  5. Democrat incumbent, historically Democrat district
  6. Republican incumbent, historically Democrat district


I would rather get rid of the assholes that sold us out, than give them a free pass and only worry about "open seats"
 
I would rather get rid of the assholes that sold us out, than give them a free pass and only worry about "open seats"

I think prevention is the best cure. If you have a bad apple in there now, work to restore an understanding of liberty and the rule of law in your local GOP, so that they learn how to spot the bad ones before they get endorsed for high office.

Spending $100,000 on a race you're not going to win is okay IF you cause the other guy more than $100,000 worth of pain. If you can't do that, spend the $100,000 elsewhere.
 
I think prevention is the best cure. If you have a bad apple in there now, work to restore an understanding of liberty and the rule of law in your local GOP, so that they learn how to spot the bad ones before they get endorsed for high office.

Spending $100,000 on a race you're not going to win is okay IF you cause the other guy more than $100,000 worth of pain. If you can't do that, spend the $100,000 elsewhere.

How are you going to prevent anything if you leave the dipshits in office who have sold us out? they will continue to sell us out!
 
How are you going to prevent anything if you leave the dipshits in office who have sold us out? they will continue to sell us out!

Yes, they will, but you'll be spending your time and money in other districts where they'll have more effect. I'm not suggesting supporting bad incumbents at all. Don't donate, don't campaign, nothing. Instead, educate local GOP activists and groom replacement candidates for when the seat does open up, and let the GOP incumbent know that (s)he is not earning your activist support for the next election.

535 seats, 1 ours, two options:

1) Fight everywhere, lose everywhere: 534 - 1
2) Fight where we can win, lose most places: 530-5

Rinse, repeat.
 
535 seats, 1 ours, two options:

1) Fight everywhere, lose everywhere: 534 - 1
2) Fight where we can win, lose most places: 530-5

Rinse, repeat.

5 votes isn't a majority. so you are wasting your time and money too. all of their votes will be negated by the incumbents that have sold us out. so whats the point. we are all fighting an uphill battle.
 
Assuming the priority list is correct, we would have to give only nominal support to Adam Kokesh in New Mexico. He is runnng against Democratic incumbent in a historically Democratic district. A majority non-white District. I have been unable to find a single instance in recent years where a Republican has carried it. One of the myths of American politics is that the parties re-district in order to maximize their number of seats. They do no such thing. They re-district in a way to maximize the number of absolutely safe, really uncontestable districts. Our three largest states, California. New York, and Texas do not contain a single marginal seat. The freedom movement must concentrate its efforts in the House in party primaries.
 
5 votes isn't a majority. so you are wasting your time and money too. all of their votes will be negated by the incumbents that have sold us out. so whats the point. we are all fighting an uphill battle.

Point taken, but the sellouts will still vote with us more often than those who openly promote big government.
 
Give as much money as you want to people who YOU believe in regardless of what others say. I voted libertarian for a long time because I refuse to vote for evil, even the lessor of two evils.
 
Surely, someone around here has the talent and time to pick a date in December or February. If so, I'll donate during the money bomb. If not, I'll donate at my own whim. ;)
 
Assuming the priority list is correct, we would have to give only nominal support to Adam Kokesh in New Mexico. He is runnng against Democratic incumbent in a historically Democratic district. A majority non-white District.

You do realize most of this country will be non-white in a matter of decades, right? By your logic our Libertarian efforts are futile no matter what since the white race will no longer be a majority.

I would like for Adam to get a Gary Johnson endorsement which should give him a bit of a boost in that district.
 
I would rather get rid of the assholes that sold us out, than give them a free pass and only worry about "open seats"

That's what we WANT, sure. But the strategy for supporting races should be less about what we want, and more about what we are capable of getting. Challenging a Republican incumbent is a tough sell. Let's fund candidates for open seats or candidates challenging incumbents in the other party before we start in with primary challengers, especially ones without the celebrity needed to really make an impact.

RJ has a little money, I'd advocate holding off until an independent poll shows him in striking distance before having a money bomb.
 
That's what we WANT, sure. But the strategy for supporting races should be less about what we want, and more about what we are capable of getting. Challenging a Republican incumbent is a tough sell. Let's fund candidates for open seats or candidates challenging incumbents in the other party before we start in with primary challengers, especially ones without the celebrity needed to really make an impact.

RJ has a little money, I'd advocate holding off until an independent poll shows him in striking distance before having a money bomb.

Fair enough.
 
Why not just promote the thisnovember5th.com money bomb, and use that to help RJ Harris raise money?
 
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