wHEN HELL BREAKS LOOSE...WHERE ARE WE ALL GOING TO MEET?

[UnReconstructed]

We're probably going to move to Wyoming regardless.

The South is nice but a lot of it is given over to Socialism.

 

[Elliott]

You know it's coming......

So where are we all going to meet, to rise up and defend our country.
We probably will not be able to decide this once the shit is going down, they'll have killed the internet or at least this forum by then.

Pick a state? any state will do...at this point there all screwed.

Call me crazy? This happens all over the world...oppressive governments.....populations revolting...... our is coming again!

You better be ready! Maybe not this year or the next...but it's coming.
This system of things can only go on for so long....

Ok on a lighter note...... Go Patriots! How ironic.......what need more of...patriots!

You mean we should all meet up in one place so one MOAB can take us all out at once? There is currently a template group of loosely affiliated people that are effectively countering a state-of-the-art military. I'm certainly not saying we should become like them, but that's really the only way to actively resist.

The best bet really would just be a full retreat into rural northwestern US while the cities all become Detroit clones. Try to remove all reliance on the federal infrastructure and create a relatively self-sustaining agrarian society. ...basically we all become Quakers.

 

[Myerz]

These are scary times and I for one am not going to pretend that it's not or underestimate our so called government's intentions. Everything thing they do, approve of, ignore, advocate, endorse, and believe in is completely opposite of what the people of this country want. It just screams of corruption. For longest time I would see these other countries, Africa, Middle-east, wherever and the corruption that infected them and think wow that's too bad, I sure am glad I live in the USA. I think our circumstance is worse.... at least in Africa they don't lie to the people....they tell the people their screwed and if they don't like it they can choose to die. Here in America it's deception and the illusion of freedom.

Believe me, I love this country, the spirit of this country.... I despise the system. I want us to get our country back more than anyone I know. I just can't not sit by and hope though I need to be ready for the worse....... be ready for the worse, hope for the best.

 

[tekrunner]

Philadelphia on the East coast.

Maybe Seattle on the west?

Bump for Seattle, plus Seattles dirty little sister Tacoma virtually has no police force...The place already operates under constitutional law, you don't bother anyone, no one bothers you.

 

[Ben Woods]

How About Wyoming?

http://www.freestatewyoming.org/

The Free State Project of the West.

Or New Hampshire? The other Free State Project.

 

[UnitedWeStand]

I think we should give each others our phone numbers so we can keep organized here if things do get nasty. Each state has their own meeting spot and go from there. That would be the only sure way that we stay organized if something happens. Just a thought is all.

Join your meetup group, if theres isnt one, start one!

 

[nebulous]

Norway, 95% english speaking and free as hell! Plus the Fjords are awesome. We can builg longboats like the vikings and pillage.

Norway is a Monarchy and they like to tax:
Norway country profile!
Norway taxes!

Corporate tax
Tax rate for resident companies The rate is 28% (municipal tax of 6,75% and national tax 21,25%).

Tax rate on long-term capital gains In Norway, capital gains are taxed at the rate of 28%.

System governing groups of companies and dividends paid by subsidiaries to their parent companies The Norwegian residents pay the tax on dividends which is included in the corporate tax. The non-residents pay a tax of 25%.

Tax rate on branches Branches are taxed on profits made in Norway at the rate of 28%.

Income tax

Fiscal year The fiscal year begins on January 1st and ends on December 31st of the same year.

Income tax rate The tax on individuals is divided into three branches: the non-residents class 0), single person (class 1) and one or more dependant (class 2).
All individuals (residents and non residents) must pay a municipal tax of 28% on their annual net income which is superior to 28,800 NOK (class 1) or 57,600 NOK (class 2).
Tax schedule 2001:
From 0 to 289,000 NOK 0%
From 289,000 to 793,200 NOK 13,5%
Beyond 793,200 NOK 19,5%

Class 2
From 0 to 342,200 NOK 0%
From 342,200 to 793,200 NOK 13,5%
Beyond 793,200 NOK 19,5%

All income from capital are taxable with 28% except dividends taxable with 11%.

Tax deductions or other allowances In Norway, several deductions and dejections can reduce the amount of taxes and apply also to non-residents.
Travelling costs from the place of residence until the work place up to 6 000 NOK.
Insurance allowances are deductible at a level of 10% of the amount of the premium (30 000 NOK maximum).
The loans interests paid for the purchase of a property good.
Living allowances.
Deductions for dependent children:
1820 NOK for every dependent child (up to 15 years-old included).
2540 NOK for children from 16 to 18 years-old.
Valid fixed deduction for all categories of incomes: 20% of the annual gross income (3 700 NOK minimum / 32 600 NOK maximum).
Deduction of 25 000 for single people and 50 000 for married couples.
There are many other deductions concerning individuals who participate in the capital increase of a company or any other investment.

VAT rates

Standard rates 25%

Reduced rates 14% and 8%
Rate of 0% applied on some products and services (produced intended to export, some goods transportation, newspapers, electric energy in some regions of Norway etc.).

Other important taxes

Name of tax Rate
Stamp duties 2,50%
Land taxes 0,2% to 0,7%
Tax of investment 7%
Successions and donations Progressive rate (maximum 30%)
Wealth taxes 0% to 1,1%

 

[Ben Woods]

You mean we should all meet up in one place so one MOAB can take us all out at once? There is currently a template group of loosely affiliated people that are effectively countering a state-of-the-art military. I'm certainly not saying we should become like them, but that's really the only way to actively resist.

The best bet really would just be a full retreat into rural northwestern US while the cities all become Detroit clones. Try to remove all reliance on the federal infrastructure and create a relatively self-sustaining agrarian society. ...basically we all become Quakers.

I agree. North West is best, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and maybe even Alberta!

 

[merrimac]

Montana!

Montana would be an excellent spot. And it's not just cause I live there. We're almost the size of California but very few people live here. I'm not even sure if we have a million people in it yet so if the Ron Paul people moved here we would easily take over the political system. And we have one tenth of the world's coal (seriously), so we could take care of our energy needs and fortify ourselves from the North American Union (R.I.P. USA).

 

[Pauls' Revere]

How About Wyoming?

http://www.freestatewyoming.org/

The Free State Project of the West.

Or New Hampshire? The other Free State Project.

Start a seccesion movement with Jefferson State! They did it briefly in the 1940's and we could have Ron as president! Please check this out, it's pretty cool. Not the free state project but actually creating the 51st state!
http://jeffersonstate.com/
incidently we might want to contact the reps for Jefferson State and see if they like Ron Paul.

 

[nebulous]

Start a seccesion movement with Jefferson State! They did it briefly in the 1940's and we could have Ron as president! Please check this out, it's pretty cool. Not the free state project but actually creating the 51st state!
http://jeffersonstate.com/
incidently we might want to contact the reps for Jefferson State and see if they like Ron Paul.

I've driven all through that area supposedly the start of WWII dropped the legislation in Congress!
I like that area and would move there or may move there anyway!

 

[Mini-Me]

Montana would be an excellent spot. And it's not just cause I live there. We're almost the size of California but very few people live here. I'm not even sure if we have a million people in it yet so if the Ron Paul people moved here we would easily take over the political system. And we have one tenth of the world's coal (seriously), so we could take care of our energy needs and fortify ourselves from the North American Union (R.I.P. USA).

Even Montana isn't big enough to avoid the NAU nuking it to hell for noncompliance...

 

[aravoth]

Akaska, start a secession movement in alaska. Lots of resources up there, Makes that place kinda like arakkis on dune.

 

[ArrestPoliticians]

Montana. duh.

 

[Carole]

Excuse me, but Bush and Clinton have both ended America as we knew it. Like Humpty Dumpty, they broke it.

It will require a peaceful, if possible, people revolution to put put the pieces back together again. Otherwise secession is another way to break the matrix of glabalism.

 

[Carole]

Yeah,

 

[Carole]

Hmm...you might want to make it closer to Tennessee... which also has been attending secession conventions.

 

[Carole]

We actually will need several places as it will be too difficult to travel long distances. We probably won't be able to even get gasoline.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Where? How about FEMA camp?

 

[tommyzDad]

Michigan. Join the Militia up there.