What's wrong with Republicans???? I'm stumped?

[hazek]

Voting for the majority never is about reason but about emotions which are getting played on by the corporate media propaganda machine to vote as they'd like you to vote. All the facts are there to support this, it's not some sort of mystery or conspiracy, you just have to listen when people explain it and learn from their lessons.

How do you think Hitler convinced an entire nation of ordinary people to wage a war against the world? News flash, he couldn't have done without his propaganda machine.

All this is human nature and you better wake up to these facts.

 

[ssjevot]

It's just going to make it that much more amusing when Obama wins if they nominate someone other than Paul. Oh you wanted us to vote for your neocon, because you thought he was electable? Not happening.

 

[Brett85]

The people who vote for Romney vote for him because they view him as the most likely candidate to beat Obama. The exit polls always show that this is the number one reason why people vote for Mitt. People vote for Newt because he frequently slams the liberal media and President Obama. Ron should take notes and realize that the more you criticize President Obama, the higher you'll climb in the polls.

 

[doctorfunk]

The Republican party doesn't stand for anything anymore anyway. Not since the neocons hijacked it.

The good news is, the libertarian wing is the fastest and only growing part of the party along with the fact the youth are leaning towards Paul. The future looks bright, if the collapse doesn't come first...

A collapse might be just what the doctor ordered. Some government programs and ways of thinking might more easily be killed off by their own weight than policy change. Let's face it, most people are selfish. They want low taxes and big government handouts (as long as they're the ones benefitting). They want little government interference in areas that benefit them and more government in areas that they feel need improvement. They want benefits now without the repayment later. To convince people that they need to give up some things now so they can have more things later goes against everything that people are taught.

 

[affa]

But that still doesn't say why they'd vote Gingrich who polls dead last against Obama. Romney polls best, then Ron, then Santorum then Gingrich.

If the comment sections of articles are to believed, a very high number of people think so many people hate Obama that he has absolutely no chance against anyone. It's actually a bit reminiscent of 2004.

 

[LanceK37]

If the comment sections of articles are to believed, a very high number of people think so many people hate Obama that he has absolutely no chance against anyone. It's actually a bit reminiscent of 2004.

You are right. People who live entirely in the Fox News-neocon media world develop the distorted view that 70% of Americans hate Obama and that any Republican could beat him. What these people can't understand is that Gingrich especially is a loser candidate who is hated by Independents. Independents do not like someone so closely associated with the worst neocon excesses of the Republican revolution of 1994. Gingrich is linked with Rush Limbaugh to non-Republicans and Independents hate Rush Limbaugh. Also, even the worst democratic critics of Obama would vote for him again over Gingrich without any hesitation.

 

[CogWheeler]

Mitt's electability paradoxically comes from the well-founded perception that he isn't iconoclast. He's flexible, and therefore, Moderate. But this all falls apart miserably, and I mean specifically for the independents, with the kind of hard-right crony capitalism that so embodies Romney's .01%. To think that this is the guy who is going to capture the sensitivities of voters who recognize wealth stratification, or that he will be the one to fix Obama's failures in unemployment and housing, was a gross miscalculation. He may make inroads as the "business man", but so much of that will be zero-sum.

"Obama Republicans" are disappointed in the Progressive financial reformer, who sold out to the banks and kept the military engine reved. And now they're supposed to vote for a defense building financier??

Ron Paul could draw obvious contrast with this. It is not the general that will be his problem, but he hasn't made a single argument to that effect during the primary debates (that I've seen). I can't help but think a more talented politician would be further down field.

 

[CasualApathy]

Most people are retarded, it's just a fact of life.

 

[airborne373]

Easy question to answer, they are not Republicans. They are socialist, statist, religious zealots, war profiteers, false patriots etc.

 

[tfurrh]

Well, the number one issue this election is the economy....that's why we won't vote for Ron Paul.

 

[hazek]

The people who vote for Romney vote for him because they view him as the most likely candidate to beat Obama. The exit polls always show that this is the number one reason why people vote for Mitt.

Bullshit. I would bet big money if you asked people who voted for any other candidate other than Ron for their reasons, 80% of them would spit out some bullshit talking point the corporate media propaganda machine has fed them. Btw electability is one such talking point.

 

[jolynna]

Being accused of being a flip-flopper is as UN-harsh of an accusation as there is. Ewwww...can't abide a human that changes their mind? Goodness gracious, people in the USA take Ambien every night because they can't sleep due to worrying over Mr. Romney's flip-flopping.

The OTHER Republicans can't accuse Mitt of being a war-monger because THEY have to be PRO war. Otherwise Ron Paul isn't scary.

Obama can kill Muslims right and left, but Democrats, Socialists and Progressives can't call him out for it, because the world would be a SCARY place IF there wasn't a progressive in charge. They ignore Obama's vilest acts and will vote for Obama lest they get a dangerous GOP leader. Just like Republicans say vote for ANYBODY who isn't Obama even if Obama has followed in the exact footsteps of George W. Bush and Romney (chosen by the same corporate interests that picked Bush and Obama) is going to do EXACTLY what Obama would do in EVERY given situation.

Political parties are FARCES. Ways to keep the same games going by giving the same behaviors different labels.

But even the dumbest of us and even MORE for those that like to call ourselves intellectuals and "thinkers"...have GOT to feel some SHAME over what Bush started, what Obama is perpetuating and what Romney proposes. Don't you think rational Republicans feel uncomfortable with all the senseless killings? Republicans aren't the oafs the media keeps protraying. Being fiscally responsible is LOGICAL thinking.

I say go for the stance everybody calls Ron Paul's achilles heel. I want to go to the part inside of EVERY human which is decent.

There are LOTS of videos available to explain WHY Ron Paul's foreign policy will keep America SAFER. Freedom Watch has interviews CIA and high ranking military to back up Ron Paul's intelligent stance and that explain why it is being STRONG. And will KEEP AMERICA STRONG.

No good human, deep down, can really believe war and collateral damage are o.k. Let our soldiers, our veterans and their families talk. Make people watch videos of soldiers coming home. Make them see the relief in the innocent children's eyes when they see daddy or mommy safe. Show them the video of the dog when his master comes home. Show them the dog lying by his master's coffin. People need to feel the PAIN to understand WAR is about real humans and their families, not just casualty numbers and scores like in a football game.

In the 1960's and early 70's college kids with their message of GIVE PEACE A CHANCE changed the world. Romney and Obama ARE Johnson and Nixon. Ron Paul and his supporters are the cool-looking hip peaceniks. Look at OUR Revolution sweatshirts...look at the dumb Newt sweatshirts. I'm PROUD of who I chose. It isn't an achilles heel unless we keep apologizing for it.

We aren't the ones on the WRONG (actually evil) side.

Ending wars and imperialism will save the U.S.A. trillions. It will allow grandparents keep their social security. The money not spent on war could go to the states and counties for roads and infrastructure. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And we wouldn't have to print fiat money and go into debt for generations to pay for them.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Okay, I'm ALL for Ron Paul, let me make that clear.


But Mitt is an obvious liar, flip flopper, and supported abortion at one time.
Gingrich leaves wives and is embedded in corporations.

ABOVE ALL - THEY BOTH WERE FOR THE BAIL OUT!!!!! I can't freaking believe that Republicans are so freaking naive to this fact. I remember how so many were pissed about the bail out then they are going to elect somebody who was for it!!! I'm STUMPED.

At least if they could not grasp the genius of Ron Paul, I could see them (and the neocons) going for Santorum. But what the heck Gingrich & Romney?

I think elections are really jokes... I can't believe the Republican party.

Let me bust a few myths for you.

Myth: The TEA party was against bailouts and spending.
Busted: Only in 2007-08. The majority of Tea partiers don't give a rat's ass about increased spending.

A majority of them voted for McCain in 2008. They will vote for Romney in 2012.

They just adopted the Tea party label to distance themselves from the George W. Bush brand.

The Dubya brand was too stale, too murky and too reviled by the average person. They wanted to get rid of the suit but they love the Bush policies.

Just look at any poll among self described Tea partiers - they support the NDAA, the Patriot Act and killing terrerrists.

Myth: Human beings are wired to seek the truth.
Busted: No. No. No. We are wired to win.

More importantly we are wired to see our tribe win. That's just the reality of our evolutionary history.

That is why the Republicans will vote for whoever the party nominates (Romney, Newt, Graham, anyone) even if they are not conservative.

Heck, if Obama was a Republican and the GOP nominated him, they will vote for him in drives.

Same with the Dems.

This is also why the party of family values and Christian principles votes for Newt. He might be an adulterer but he is their adulterer.

Myth: Human beings are independent thinkers who just need to be presented with rational arguments.
Busted: No. For most of oour history, we have been manipulated by a tiny minority of intellectually willful people.

Mass media does today what priests and rabbis did in the 12th century AD. People follow them like sheep.

Myth: Ron Paul can win the GOP nomination.
Busted: About 90% of the Republican party elected officials, workers and about 40% of the GOP voters will vote for Obama before they vote for Ron Paul.

Although according to polls more GOPers say they will vote for Paul, that is simply because they don't think Paul will win the nomination. If Paul actually wins it, AT LEAST 40% of the GOP voters will vote for Obama.

Myth: Mitt Romney is the most electable candidate in the GOP primaries. Obama will surely lose in 2012.
Busted: The Obama re-election campaign has a billion dollars, research from Newt's attack adverts, Romney's flip flops and most importantly the Occutards.

All they will need to do is to point at Romney and say, "Look! There is your 1%." The Occutards will do all the dirty work for the Obama campaign, unknowingly. It doesn't even matter that Obama will get more $$$ from the banks than Romney.

The anti-war left will campaign for Obama again. Yes, Obama is a war monger but compared to Mitt Romney from the War Party, he will be perceived as the prince of peace. The anti-war left will come out in droves to make sure that Romney the war monger doesn't get elected. Another group of useful idiots.

Also, the media. The media has not attacked Romney in the same vein as they attacked Newt, Paul and to a lesser extent Santorum. That is because they want Mitt to be the GOP nominee because he is the same as Obama. But come the general, they will still prefer Obama and you will see how the media turns on Mitt. Wait till Bill Maher and Dave Letterman crack magic mormon underwear jokes and you will know what I mean.

Lastly, the Ron Paul voters will not vote for the GOP nominee.

 

[Brett85]

Bullshit. I would bet big money if you asked people who voted for any other candidate other than Ron for their reasons, 80% of them would spit out some bullshit talking point the corporate media propaganda machine has fed them. Btw electability is one such talking point.

I think we all just got a little dumber after reading that.

 

[Standing Liberty]

People do what the masters tell them. This two party system is a scam. The brainwashed zombies are as unprincipled as Newt, Mitt or Berry. It's nothing more than Blue vs Red to them. The answer(Ron Paul) is right in front of everyone, and they refuse to see. All we can do is fight for liberty. However, I am afraid that the ballot box is not where we will win this fight.

 

[mosquitobite]

Here's what's wrong with Republicans.

1. They want a real conservative, but don't look that closely at records. If the media went on 24/7 about how Reagan campaigned for Ron Paul during his first run for president, always said great things about him, and kept pushing the pictures of Paul and Reagan together, it would paint a whole different picture. Suddenly, Ron Paul would look less kooky and more Reagan-like. That's the kind of Republican they want, but they won't scrutinize enough to find one.

2. The media ignores Ron Paul and doesn't properly vet the other candidates. If the media kept pointing on Romney's flip-flops and Gingrich's affairs, the way they went on and on about Cain's or those stupid newsletters, Ron Paul would suddenly look much more consistent and valued. Ron Paul isn't only consistent on the issues, but he's a man of deep integrity and values. Unfortunately, because of the blackouts, and the fact that some candidates get free passes on things that really call their character into question, that's not the picture voters get.

3. They want electability. They want someone who can beat Obama, and they don't care who it is. For them, a Republican - any Republican - is going to be better than Obama. A lot of them jumped off the conservative cliff with George W. Bush, and fell into a pit of paranoia and propaganda. For them, a Ron Paul win means more Obama (I've actually heard people say that Ron Paul reminds them of Obama) and more terrorism. Granted, they don't have to worry, because he's obviously not electable.

Yes, I know, most of the other candidates don't poll well against the big O, but do you honestly think they know that? I bet if you took a challenge to only watch the MSM, don't visit blogs or read anything on the Internet, and only read newspapers, the election would look like a bleak, dark thing with no Ron Paul. We know all this stuff because we're always looking for it.

4. They want someone whom they view can win in the primary. Ron hasn't won a single state yet, so people don't think he'll win the nomination. This is obviously because he wasn't electable to begin with, though.

Let's get a JPG of "electable"

 

[Czolgosz]

Bullshit. I would bet big money if you asked people who voted for any other candidate other than Ron for their reasons, 80% of them would spit out some bullshit talking point the corporate media propaganda machine has fed them. Btw electability is one such talking point.

Precisely.

It speaks to the core of Humanity. Most are easily mislead and are willingly lead by those who claim power over them. You can even find this most basic trait in Ron Paul supporters, though I'm happy that many are independent thinkers.

 

[mosquitobite]

People do what the masters tell them. This two party system is a scam. The brainwashed zombies are as unprincipled as Newt, Mitt or Berry. It's nothing more than Blue vs Red to them. The answer(Ron Paul) is right in front of everyone, and they refuse to see. All we can do is fight for liberty. However, I am afraid that the ballot box is not where we will win this fight.

Ha, whenever I see the "anyone but Obama" line I sarcastically reply: "gooooo red team! *\o/* Gimme a R!"

 

[Jingles]

I have no idea. I have been trying to figure them out for a while. My friend's dad originally got me interested in politics when I was younger (from that I became an average fox obeying republican until I discovered Ron Paul in 2008). With all that has transpired over these years he still seems to cling to the average Bush Republicanism of the previous era. All he ever posts about on facebook is meaningless things like "OMG OBAMA SAID X HERE AND Y HERE!" "HE ADMITTED HE IS A FAILURE" Then he'll just make posts complaining about gay/lesbian things in the news. "OH NO A GAY COUPLE ADOPTED A KID".

He is a very intelligent man, but I just don't get it. You think with all the economic problems we have that would become your main focus and take a true look at what is going on in this country with our liberties, wars, etc... I don't want to get in argument with him because it will go on forever and I don't have that time. I just want to say "WHO THE HELL CARES!? WE HAVE 15 TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT PLUS THE TRILLIONS THE FED IS LOANING OUT! ENDLESS WARS DRAINING OUR COUNTRY! WE HAVE BEEN DESTROYING OUR LIBERTIES VIA THE PATRIOT ACT, NDAA, ASSASSINATING US CITIZENS, ETC... AND YOUR MAIN CONCERN IS ABOUT PEOPLE BEING HOMOSEXUAL!? REALLY!?" He is stuck in his ways (I've tried before to get him on our side).

I just don't know, I don't get it. In all honesty I just don't feel like Republicans care at all about the Constitution or limited government. They only care for endless war for "security", a misinterpreted view of Christianity (i.e. using force to try and make others Christian/moral in their eyes), and these strange social things that I just don't understand. They tend to have this strange attachment to authority and wish for it to be used.

 

[jolynna]

In the 1960's and early 1970's we UTILIZED mob mentality.

You were either Johnson (Hey, hey, LBJ! How many boys did you kill today?) OR you were slimy Nixon IF you were pro-war.

The peace-lovers wore beads, jeans, shirts with PEACE signs, had long flowing hair and were the "SMART" intellectuals. People download For What It's Worth (Buffalo Springfield) and get psyched UP! LIKE MY GENERATION DID.

Obama and Romney are EVERY DARN BIT as slimy and repulsive as Johnson and Nixon. Johnson actually was a civil right hero...SOMETHING Obama isn't and will NEVER be (NDAA & his war on drugs and Fast & Furious). But, the ANTI-WAR sentiment, brought him down.

Our candidate, McGovern, did NOT win the election, but WE ended the war.

Please, keep your eye on the prize. All of you are the wave of a NEW FUTURE. Don't think otherwise. Lives, here and all over the world, as well as liberty are WORTH your fight. And you can WIN. I am proud to have been part of it once. Get going so I can still be around when you guys do it AGAIN!