What's next for the liberty movement?

I would hope that Liberty Forest remains,

Education,, awareness and organization .

I don't think we will change anything from the top down,, but from the bottom up.

Feed the roots.
 
- Identifying strong, credible Liberty candidates across the nation for state and federal and re-electing Rand Paul to the U.S. Senate.
 
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?489950-The-Austrian-Ron-Paul-on-Hope-for-the-Future

We Don’t Need a Majority

When thinking about all the work we still have to do, it’s important to keep in mind that we don’t need majority support. If you’re waiting for 51 percent of the population to say “I’m libertarian and I believe everything you say,” you’ll lose your mind. What we need for success is intellectual leadership in a country that can influence government and the society overall.

That’s where the progress is being made. We’re only talking about 7 or 8 percent of a country that is necessary to provide the kind of influence you need. This was the case during the American Revolution, and it’s true today. You are part of that 8 percent.

When doing this work, though, there are many things that can be done. People often ask me “what do you want me to do.” My answer is: “do what you want to do.” There is no one way. Some people can use the political system, and others can go into pure education. Lew Rockwell started the Mises Institute, but what you do for the cause of liberty is personal to you, and you have to and what makes sense for you.
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Deborah K said:
Yes they did. And anyway, as my friend Ernie Hancock has said: 'To herd cats, just open up a can of tuna'. The question then becomes: What is our "tuna"?
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This question becomes much less important at the state or local level, but is certainly still relevant. But at the national level, where being able to capture the "soft support" is necessary, I agree that having a "tuna" (to use your word) would be extremely helpful. There's certainly plenty of possibilities around, see post #10, here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?489744-Plan-for-2020-Step-1-find-pornstar
 
Deborah K said:
Yes they did. And anyway, as my friend Ernie Hancock has said: 'To herd cats, just open up a can of tuna'. The question then becomes: What is our "tuna"?
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Liberty, backed by a Constitutional federation. (limited government) is what I thought our choice was.

why was I wrong on that?
 
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I don't get why people keep saying we need to focus on local elections or on a Presidential run. Trees need water on the roots AND sunlight on the leaves.

Last year I put up a poll here. A combined 56% of respondents first heard about liberty or learned more about it because of Ron's runs, and 28% first learned about liberty directly from Ron because he ran. Running a high profile presidential campaign is just as valuable as running for city counsel and being the lone no vote in your little area. We need to do both at the same time, watering the roots with local victories while we shine light on the leaves with the national spotlight.
 
The Rebel Poet said:
I don't get why people keep saying we need to focus on local elections or on a Presidential run. Trees need water on the roots AND sunlight on the leaves.

Last year I put up a poll here. A combined 56% of respondents first heard about liberty or learned more about it because of Ron's runs, and 28% first learned about liberty directly from Ron because he ran. Running a high profile presidential campaign is just as valuable as running for city counsel and being the lone no vote in your little area. We need to do both at the same time, watering the roots with local victories while we shine light on the leaves with the national spotlight.
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Liberty cannot survive on it's own Love. that is why it never has.
Liberty requires responsibility. this is anathema to many. and those types tend to congregate in groups. and then create "states"

this explains why our founders intent, was to use the "state" to limit the states.
 
GunnyFreedom said:
You are definitely wrong. The problem is the people do not want liberty. The way to change that, and thus make a liberty President viable, is to change people's minds. The way to change people's minds is to win local offices and demonstrate the effectiveness of liberty. This eliminates the fear, creates desire, and will lead to a liberty victory in the White House.

Until and unless we start working from the bottom up, we can go 100 years and this will never happen. Period.
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Have you seen the show Parks and Rec? I love it. Ron is a pretty wonderful character. Let's pretend that he was a perfect libertarian rather than a spoof of libertarianism. According to you... people would look at Pawnee, Indiana and think, wow... that city is so great because of Ron. Except... Ron wouldn't be the only city official. There would also be Knope... who is definitely not a libertarian. So if Pawnee does thrive... liberals would give all the credit to Knope while libertarians would give all the credit to Ron.

Just think about all the countries that liberals point to as being examples of successful welfare states. They say that Scandinavian countries succeed because of, rather than despite, high taxes.

Rather than try and change a city to reflect libertarian ideals... I think it's better to change a website to reflect libertarian ideas. It would be far easier to accomplish and far easier for people to see the direct correlation between free-market ideals and the website's success.

Like I explained in an earlier post... this forum would have one page that would list websites dedicated to free-market ideas. The websites would be sorted by their value... and their value would be determined by how much the members of this forum were willing to pay for them. For example... here's Cafe Hayek...

http://cafehayek.com/

I'd be willing to give Bryan at least a dollar to add that website to the list. So at first it would look like this...

$1 - Cafe Hayek

If you thought that Cafe Hayek was too low on the list... then you could give Bryan $3 for Cafe Hayek. So then it would look like this...

$4 - Cafe Hayek

By a completely decentralized funding system... aka a "market" (specifically crowdfunding)... we'd sort free-market websites according to their total value.

The top 5 or 10 most valuable websites would be displayed on the homepage of this website.

I'm guessing that you're against the minimum wage? The problem with the minimum wage is that it transmits inaccurate information. The theory being that accurate information is more valuable than inaccurate information. If you agree that accurate information is more valuable... then perhaps you'll agree that it's a good idea to sort liberty websites according to their actual value. If it's a good idea to know the actual value of one resource... such a worker... then it's a good idea to know the actual value of all resources... including websites... and especially websites dedicated to really important topics.... such as freedom.
 
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