What's going on in this Ron Paul Picture?

[AlabamaWildMan]

 

[Craig_R]

No antlers kiddies. This aint legal in any state I know of to hunt. This is roadkill most likely.

He must be checking it to make sure it is dead so they dont have to mercy kill it, or try taking it to a vet.

you must be kidding.

This deer was harvested legally Dr paul checked for a pulse jokingly declaring the deer dead.

btw most states allow for antlerless deer harvesting.

 

[98Tokay]

Why is this a thread? This is asinine.

 

[ConstitutionGal]

BTW, that hunting bitch is from New Hampshire. Maybe if people like her had been going out trying to save their country instead of going out to kill Bambi, he'd have done a lot better in places like New Hampshire.

HAte to break it to you bud but a LOT of folks that hunt ARE the ones who are informed and engaged with trying to preserve the foundations of this Country. You were WAY off base with that childish, crude post.

 

[AlabamaWildMan]

HAte to break it to you bud but a LOT of folks that hunt ARE the ones who are informed and engaged with trying to preserve the foundations of this Country. You were WAY off base with that childish, crude post.

Roger That!!
... just another one of those that really think the 2nd Amendment's only use is putting meat on the table....eh?

 

[affa]

I know your not here to tell me what to do, as neither am I to you. Nothing wrong with discussing different views. I will say this if I could only eat non-meat things sure, i would. But for one, I feel we are "meant" to eat meat as well as plant life. And like I said earlier I'd couldn't just stop eating seafood, I've ate it all my life same goes for landmeat.

I don't believe we were 'meant' to do anything on this Earth other than to figure out how best to live on it. Some of us take different paths.

I've been vegan for... wow, almost a decade. I am far more healthy and vibrant than I was as a meateater.

I am vegan because of some of the ideas already put forth here - a love of life. I do not swat flies either - the reckless killing of a life form simply because it's 'buzzing around' or slightly annoying doesn't sit well with me. And as for the idea that they spread germs, well, I have never been sick since I went vegan. Seriously.

It doesn't bother me if people hunt for food - many tribal cultures used every last part of an animal they killed, meat, skin, bones. They also gave their kill great respect (there is a reason all animals are deified as gods in most tribal cultures) and understood what they were taking from this Earth. Eating meat when there is no other option (surviving a long winter being a perfect example) is understandable.

Unfortunately, many hunters no longer hunt for food. They sport kill. Many others use hunting 'for food' as an excuse to sport kill - I for one have no need to hunt for food - I'm quite well fed. For me to go hunting and then claim it was necessary for food would be a bit of double talk, since I've established I can survive quite well without meat in our current culture/environment.

What I do know is this: for the same reason I recommend a television addict take a month off from television, I also recommend a meat eater try a month or two without meat (actually, I recommend going vegan because it's too easy to really mess up being vegetarian due to miseating - Many vegetarians start eating way too much cheese and such, and don't feel well as a result). I'm not asking anyone to change their mind about it, but simply to exist for a month without. The first 2 weeks or so will find you craving protein, but if you do this in an educated manner you will learn how to replace this (nuts, beans, quinoa, tofu, hemp, etc). An educated vegan is quite well balanced, however, and has very few toxins in their body (we still have to breath the air around us).

During this 'month off' you will discover a few things -
1. Researching everything that goes into your body will be as awakening as researching Ron Paul, or our banking system, or any of the other paradigms we've been born into.
2. You will most likely feel far more 'aware' as a result, simply because it's one more area of your life that you are thinking about. This isn't to say a meat eater doesn't put thought into what they eat - surely, some do - but the simple fact is that a vegan must and many meat eaters don't.
3. Assuming you eat factory farmed meat (that is, meat you don't catch yourself) you will begin to reduce the toxin level in your body significantly. All those hormones and chemicals and preservatives.
4. You may just start to think about the lives of animals. Factory farms are disgusting, disgusting things. And spending your money on factory farmed meat means you are directly responsible for supporting those conditions. Being vegan, I can safely say I no longer support a lot of cruelty in the world. Yes, I'm still human, and yes, I still live in our society so I'm not perfect. But it still feels... good. Really good.

My point, really, is that if someone on this board eats only meat they or their friends catch, then that's one thing. I can respect that. But as soon as you get into factory farming

Also - I take offense at the word 'veginazi'. I know many, many vegans. None fit the 'stereotype' that media likes to portray. It's been my experience that what usually happens in a 'confrontation' is: a vegan orders salad (or whatever) at a restaurant. Someone asks 'what, aren't you hungry?' or, perhaps, makes fun of them in some way. The vegan, depending on their personality, gets defensive or starts explaining why. It falls on deaf ears. I've never, in all my years, seen a vegan start verbally attacking a meat eater at a restaurant. I have seen many, many meateaters verbally attack vegans.. not because they were preaching, but simply because of what they were eating.

 

[affa]

ps - that picture doesn't bother me at all. To each their own.

 

[wgadget]

Looks like Ron is petting Bambi to me.

 

[merrimac]

Stupidest post ever.

Word to the wise: that picture will alienate a significant portion of Ron Paul's base but I'm probably just one of the more vocal ones. I don't understand how you can be opposed to torturing criminals but at the same time be enthusiastic about killing harmless, gentle animals.

Isn't it possible that that deer was a mother to a now orphaned baby? And yes, that does happen. Living in Montana I have, unfortunately, seen situations like that where the baby's mother was killed.

 

[nateerb]

I am no troll. I've made about a dozen youtube videos supporting Ron Paul and two of them are on his website ronpaul2008(dot)com:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-FiXTgKFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq90G8OjXYI

But this picture brings out the worst of me, sorry.

Even though I quoted you merrimac, it was more directed to the plethora of Liberty_TN trolling on the forums last night. I understand, there are things I see on this forum that bring out the worst in me as well.

 

[affa]

Word to the wise: that picture will alienate a significant portion of Ron Paul's base but I'm probably just the more vocal one. I don't understand how you can be opposed to torturing criminals but at the same be enthusiastic about killing harmless, gentle animals.

Isn't it possible that that deer was a mother to a now orphaned baby? And yes, that does happen. Living in Montana I have, unfortunately, seen situations like that where the baby's mother was killed.

Read my above posts and you will understand where I'm coming from.

That said, if you believe this picture will alienate a portion of the base... why did you post it to start a thread?

I'm vegan and that photo doesn't bother me. Ron Paul isn't even the hunter. And that one post about the woman herself was definitely off base.

 

[DeafEric]

He has some of redneck's heart!! Go!!

 

[merrimac]

And that one post about the woman herself was definitely off base.

Hmmm...which is more off base...her killing a deer for sport or, as some have suggested, food (as she clearly looks like she's starving )...or me calling her a bitch? That's a tough one.

 

[killatop]

I thought it was a cute picture....most my family being hunters I didn't see the big deal. I myself do not hunt as I didn't find the fun in it but I see nothing wrong with it as long as the meat is being used. It's more humane than buying beef at the store that for sure.

 

[killatop]

Word to the wise: that picture will alienate a significant portion of Ron Paul's base but I'm probably just one of the more vocal ones. I don't understand how you can be opposed to torturing criminals but at the same time be enthusiastic about killing harmless, gentle animals.

Isn't it possible that that deer was a mother to a now orphaned baby? And yes, that does happen. Living in Montana I have, unfortunately, seen situations like that where the baby's mother was killed.

I really hope you are a Vegan...if not you need to do some research! Killing that deer is much more humane than buying food at McDonald's or Kroger and the things that those animals go through for you to be able to buy it.

One thing is for sure... HUNTING IS THE ONLY THING THAT HAS KEPT THE 2ND ADMEN. ... if hunting was illegal the right to own a gun quickly goes with it.

 

[affa]

Hmmm...which is more off base...her killing a deer for sport or, as some have suggested, food (as she clearly looks like she's starving )...or me calling her a bitch? That's a tough one.

calling her names on an open forum where you know many people will disagree with you is divisive. there are far better ways to get your point across without antagonizing people.

by your own admission, you're not even vegetarian. and if you don't hunt, that means you're eating factory farmed meat. (and don't start with 'free range' stuff, because 9 times out of 10 that's a corporate lie - and I know this from experience). i'd rather someone hunt than profess to care deeply about animals and not have the fortitude to quit eating meat.

i've been vegan for 10 years, so I actually put my food where my mouth is. calling that woman names on this forum doesn't accomplish a darn thing other than picking a fight.

 

[killatop]

I don't like hunters and this is the one picture I've seen of Ron Paul that paints him in a bad light (well, to me at least).

So because you don't like hunters you think no one should accept that it is a perfectly legal thing to do?

I don't know if RP is a hunter or not...but what's he supposed to do...give a rant about how awful the woman is for killing the deer..and that the deer might have had babies....GROW UP!

These kind of irrational supporters are what have turned so many people off to Ron Paul

 

[JK/SEA]

Looks like a drug deal in the background. Is that the question?

 

[merrimac]

calling her names on an open forum where you know many people will disagree with you is divisive. there are far better ways to get your point across without antagonizing people.

by your own admission, you're not even vegetarian. and if you don't hunt, that means you're eating factory farmed meat. (and don't start with 'free range' stuff, because 9 times out of 10 that's a corporate lie - and I know this from experience). i'd rather someone hunt than profess to care deeply about animals and not have the fortitude to quit eating meat.

i've been vegan for 10 years, so I actually put my food where my mouth is. calling that woman names on this forum doesn't accomplish a darn thing other than picking a fight.

Then, by your own admission affa, you have eaten meat in all the years of your life save 10. Don't lecture me about hypocracy because that's one thing we're all guilty of to some degree.

When I said I wasn't a vegetarian I meant that I eat meat only sparingly and even there I intend to change. I almost always get the vegitarian version of food and only eat meat when everyone else is. And, lest you misunderstand my meaning, I'm saying that with guilt and am not defending myself. Going cold turkey (no pun intended) on meat, in our society, is easier said than done but I have thought about doing it from time to time and have just needed that little extra motivation to do it. Having this discussion could very well have given me what I needed.

 

[burningfur]

FOOD FIGHT!!!